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02-23-2010, 06:29 PM #21
Re: My first Manny Ramirez game-used glove!!!!!
I thought style match meant it looked EXACTLY the same as one in a photo, but there were no marks or indications that it was the EXACT one to call it an actual "match?"
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02-23-2010, 07:52 PM #22
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02-23-2010, 07:56 PM #23
Re: My first Manny Ramirez game-used glove!!!!!
I don't recall ever stating the glove was a fraud or not game used. I read a post from a well respected Manny collector claiming it was questionable and there are some inconsistencies between this glove and the only "style match" photos presented. I said nothing about Sportsworld or any collectors that have seen the piece. I don't recall making any accusations.
All I stated was that those inconsitencies would concern me if I was the buyer when combined with the concerns from the other Manny collector who flat out stated it was an altered fake. Its being stated that Manny only used that "style" of glove for a very short time in 2003, if he used that style so sparingly, I would not expect many many gloves with multiple variations in lacing locations and color to have been made for him, much less multiple variations of the same sparingly used glove to have been game used.
My sincerest apologies for offending you, sportsworld or any other collectors. Though I honestly don't see how I could have by just pointing out some lacing differences and asking a question for my own personal education.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Wes Campbell
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02-23-2010, 08:02 PM #24
Re: My first Manny Ramirez game-used glove!!!!!
I wasn't refering to you!!
I'm talking still about Bobby's claim and waiting to see what he has to say before moving forward...
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02-23-2010, 09:28 PM #25
Re: My first Manny Ramirez game-used glove!!!!!
Here's the photos.....took me a while to locate them as I had to search my yahoo mail.
The glove had a Dominican last name(cant remember the name)written in silver pen which can barely be seen on the 2nd photo ring finger slot and also the MPR 20 was altered to MAR 24.
I showed this glove to a couple of glove experts and they both stated that Manny gets fielding gloves from different company reps, in hopes that he would use them and this was most likely given to one of his Domincan buddies for use.
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02-23-2010, 10:14 PM #26
Re: My first Manny Ramirez game-used glove!!!!!
Wow! I can't say I'm shocked b/c you generally know exactly what you're talking about, but that's crazy right there. The glove was inspected and identified as the same glove. Thank you for mentioning this to me. The glove is being brought to Sportsworld to be shown to Phil so he can see firsthand. I don't think anyone had ill intent with this attempted transaction, but it's always a strike against the hobby when bad stuff finds its way in. Thankfully I'm not the only one here that's a bit disturbed and there are some guys that will hopefully get to the bottom of things. MB
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02-23-2010, 10:17 PM #27
Re: My first Manny Ramirez game-used glove!!!!!
Here's the last name that was written.
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02-23-2010, 10:20 PM #28
Re: My first Manny Ramirez game-used glove!!!!!
Not always good news to collectors, but this forum continues to amaze me with the helpful information and guidance provided.
Hope you get it all squared away!Looking for: Joey Votto game used items.
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02-23-2010, 10:29 PM #29
Re: My first Manny Ramirez game-used glove!!!!!
Michael,
Couple of questions I have for you.......do you know the date Phil purchased this glove or when did the guy that sold you the glove purchase it from Phil?
Also, you mentioned that the provenance is from a very tight-knit group of private Red Sox/Manny guys that have some of the biggest authentic collections around. Can you tell me who they are or can you email me privately with some names?
Thanks, Bobby
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02-23-2010, 10:49 PM #30
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Re: My first Manny Ramirez game-used glove!!!!!
Bobby please email directly about this glove
Thanks prosvr1@tds.net