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  • flota89
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 863

    #16
    Re: Almost another perfect game

    Originally posted by yanks12025
    I'm not going to agrue about my opinion. Sorry my opinion about a play is different than yours. I just feel it would be bad for baseball with so many perfect games. And i would feel the same way if it was a yankee player.
    Are you even reading what your typing? Your saying you dont want a perfect game because it would be the third in the month? Seriously? So does that make it any more or less difficult? Come on now...
    Collecting Cardinals jerseys and bats, with a focus on Yadier Molina, Matt Holliday, and Adam Wainwright.

    Tyler
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    • eisenreich8
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2007
      • 433

      #17
      Re: Almost another perfect game

      Some unsolicited observations:

      Jim Joyce has 22 years as an MLB ump. ESPN analysts tonight said he would from here on out always be pointed at and spoken of as the guy who robbed Gallarraga of a perfect game.

      Joyce has a face I would slap even if I didn't know the guy.

      Jim Leyland fired off on Joyce like he was definitely gonna get some blood. All the Tigers players/coaches/manager on the field who lost their cool and simply verbally assailed Jim Joyce showed tremendous restraint. I would have been a Cabrera many-fold and probably worse.

      The runner was definitely out. Not even close, even on TV as it happened. You are so rooting for this dramatic final play's success and I just had a flashbulb go off like it was Game 6 of the '86 WS and Mookie just hit the grounder. Stunning, irreversible finality.

      My head is hurting and I'm going to bed. Good night.

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      • camarokids
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2006
        • 3869

        #18
        Re: Almost another perfect game

        It isn't even close.

        The guy was out!!!!

        Selig should overturn the umps decision and make it a perfect game!!!!!

        Grow a set Bud and do what it right for the game!

        Instant replay is badly needed in baseball, give each manager two or three challenges per game...........
        Thank you,
        David

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        • flota89
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2009
          • 863

          #19
          Re: Almost another perfect game

          Originally posted by camarokids
          It isn't even close.

          The guy was out!!!!

          Selig should overturn the umps decision and make it a perfect game!!!!!

          Grow a set Bud and do what it right for the game!

          Instant replay is badly needed in baseball, give each manager two or three challenges per game...........
          I was just saying to my family that I wish they could overturn that. I'm not sure what I think about replay yet, but it really looks nice after an ump messes something that big up.
          Collecting Cardinals jerseys and bats, with a focus on Yadier Molina, Matt Holliday, and Adam Wainwright.

          Tyler
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          • camarokids
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2006
            • 3869

            #20
            Re: Almost another perfect game

            BTW, even MLB.com has the story line right.....

            "Missed call ends Galarraga's perfect bid"

            Here's a link to see replay......

            Thank you,
            David

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            • yanks12025
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2006
              • 3118

              #21
              Re: Almost another perfect game

              We don't need more of mlb instant replay or challenges, only for homeruns.

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              • camarokids
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2006
                • 3869

                #22
                Re: Almost another perfect game

                Originally posted by yanks12025
                We don't need more of mlb instant replay or challenges, only for homeruns.
                When the umps don't screw up anymore, I will agree with you......
                Thank you,
                David

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                dzscope at gmail dot com

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                • yanks12025
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 3118

                  #23
                  Re: Almost another perfect game

                  Originally posted by camarokids
                  When the umps don't screw up anymore, I will agree with you......
                  It's part of the game. God why don't we just change all the rules and the name of the game. Did they have replay back in the 1920's and before that. That was real baseball and now we have pretty much a watered down version. I'm sure we can come up with computers that show a ball and strike and get rid of the home plate umpire in all.

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                  • flota89
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 863

                    #24
                    Re: Almost another perfect game

                    Originally posted by yanks12025
                    It's part of the game. God why don't we just change all the rules and the name of the game. Did they have replay back in the 1920's and before that. That was real baseball and now we have pretty much a watered down version. I'm sure we can come up with computers that show a ball and strike and get rid of the home plate umpire in all.
                    A watered down version of baseball? You may as well stop now.
                    Collecting Cardinals jerseys and bats, with a focus on Yadier Molina, Matt Holliday, and Adam Wainwright.

                    Tyler
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                    • joelsabi
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 3073

                      #25
                      Re: Almost another perfect game

                      Originally posted by camarokids
                      When the umps don't screw up anymore, I will agree with you......
                      umps will always screw up once in awhile as they are human.

                      one bad call to first should not allow every throw to first to be disputed. what next, a guy releases for home too early and that is reviewable? should every third strike be reviewable? it would be hurt the game, imho. ump screw ups will always be a part of the game.

                      imho, umps just need to be reviewed more often so the bad umps can be replaced and be held accountable.
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                      Joel S.
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                      • camarokids
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 3869

                        #26
                        Re: Almost another perfect game

                        Originally posted by yanks12025
                        I'm sure we can come up with computers that show a ball and strike and get rid of the home plate umpire in all.
                        I would be all for that.

                        Especially the way umps have to call their own version of the strike zone and not call "balls & strikes" by the rule book.

                        How often do you have umps changing the strike zone from one game to the next?

                        Pitcher's have to adjust from one game to the next according to who the umpire is. Same with hitters.

                        I think there should be a standard strike for umpires to use and not their interpretation of the rule books.
                        Thank you,
                        David

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                        • camarokids
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2006
                          • 3869

                          #27
                          Re: Almost another perfect game

                          Originally posted by joelsabi
                          umps will always screw up once in awhile as they are human.

                          one bad call to first should not allow every throw to first to be disputed. what next, a guy releases for home too early and that is reviewable? should every third strike be reviewable? it would be hurt the game, imho. ump screw ups will always be a part of the game.

                          imho, umps just need to be reviewed more often so the bad umps can be replaced and be held accountable.
                          Not every call, as I said, give each manager two or three challenges per game......

                          Must be nice to be able to edit your own posts ......
                          Thank you,
                          David

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                          • STLHAMMER32
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 803

                            #28
                            Re: Almost another perfect game

                            Originally posted by yanks12025
                            It's part of the game. God why don't we just change all the rules and the name of the game. Did they have replay back in the 1920's and before that. That was real baseball and now we have pretty much a watered down version. I'm sure we can come up with computers that show a ball and strike and get rid of the home plate umpire in all.
                            They did not always have the technology available for it. Now that we do it is a discussion worth having. I think that the way they handle it football has added not taken away from the game.

                            I think that the strike zone should be left alone...but it sure would be nice to have a replay available for plays like this and balls trapped etc....a coach's challenge I think could be doable and not take away from the game. I personally dont think that the HR replays have, in fact Hamilton was robbed earlier this year when they felt they could rely on an umpires judgement alone.

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                            • joelsabi
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 3073

                              #29
                              Re: Almost another perfect game

                              Originally posted by camarokids
                              Not every call, as I said, give each manager two or three challenges per game......

                              Must be nice to be able to edit your own posts ......
                              Kinda like the NBA?

                              And it's nice that you are aware that I edited.
                              Regards,
                              Joel S.
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                              • joelsabi
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 3073

                                #30
                                Re: Almost another perfect game

                                Originally posted by STLHAMMER32
                                They did not always have the technology available for it. Now that we do it is a discussion worth having. I think that the way they handle it football has added not taken away from the game.

                                I think that the strike zone should be left alone...but it sure would be nice to have a replay available for plays like this and balls trapped etc....a coach's challenge I think could be doable and not take away from the game. I personally dont think that the HR replays have, in fact Hamilton was robbed earlier this year when they felt they could rely on an umpires judgement alone.
                                why not the strikezone? if you mess with the play at first, questioning a third strike is the next progression. its just bad for baseball imho.
                                Regards,
                                Joel S.
                                joelsabi @ gmail.com
                                Wanted: Alex Rodriguez Game Used Items and other unique artifacts, 1992 thru 1998 only. From High School to Early Mariners.

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