More Manning short sleeves on eBay

[Nathan]

This one caught my eye for a couple of reasons. First off, seller 2xmvp18 has for sale what is described as a 2005 Peyton Manning blue Colts GI/TI jersey for $895. Seller 2xmvp18 has a 59 overall feedback (96.8% positive) with an astounding 13 bid retractions in the last 6 months.

Second, our good friend Bernie with ProSportsInvestments.com is selling what looks to be the same jersey...and also sold another one on April 25 to.....2xmvp18. The common thread between these jerseys? Once again, they have the unusually short sleeves that have been discussed numerous times on here.

2xmvp18's sale -- http://cgi.ebay.com/2005-PEYTON-MANN...QQcmdZViewItem

prosportsinvestments sale -- http://cgi.ebay.com/2005-PEYTON-MANN...QQcmdZViewItem

April 25 purchase by 2xmvp18 from prosportsinvestments -- http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=8799714200

Just thought I'd give everyone a heads-up on these; I know we've discussed Manning short sleeves ad nauseum previously, but I continue to get nauseum from seeing them.

[dcrobt]

sure is a connection
i buy all of my jerseys from psi and usually get them auto not to resell but since i had an extra one i treid to sell it on ebay but no one wanted it
ty for noticing
if u can find one with the longer sleeves i'll take all you can get as i didn't realize these were incorrect until i saw the commotion about the white 2002 and navy 2002 i bought from him. i never beat them up and sell them as gu and am totally honest in all my ads.
good luck and keep up the grat work fellas!!!!!

[dcrobt]

ty for telling everyone and giving them the heads up
also
even here, there a lot of jealous posters who have nothing to do but flame and troll people and usually they are poor, young people who could only dream about having some of the items they post about and they try to cause other peolle grief etc.
i will close the auction if you are concerned about my relationship with psi as well.

[dcrobt]

i closed the auction
i'll just keep them
the shorter sleeves were used off the field like commercials and photo shoots maybe qb skills comp in hawaii maybe?
i know they are def not game used and i never tried to claim they were so what was the issue you were writing about?
this is a gu forum not team issued etc?
if i tried to sell them as game worn i could see your point but the prev topics were about someone selling them as game used.

[dcrobt]

the game used with correct longer sleeves sold for 15,000 each
big diff in price

[hblakewolf]

i'll just keep them
the shorter sleeves were used off the field like commercials and photo shoots maybe qb skills comp in hawaii maybe?
i know they are def not game used and i never tried to claim they were so what was the issue you were writing about?
this is a gu forum not team issued etc?
if i tried to sell them as game worn i could see your point but the prev topics were about someone selling them as game used.[/quote]

This sure sounds familiar!

As I noted in a previous post, Grey Flannel has a 1994 Michael Jordan White Sox jersey and pants listed on ther "Upcoming auction Preview". When I surfaced the fact that he never wore a home shirt in 1994 for a game, the description was revised from game worn to a "photo shoot/commercial" jersey.

In the past, when a jersey had an issue, the tag of "Spring Training" issued/worn was used. Is the new buzz-word for a flawed jersey "Photo Shoot" worn?

Just curious......


Howard wolf
hblakewolf@patmedia.net

[dcrobt]

see for yourself on getty

[trsent]

As I noted in a previous post, Grey Flannel has a 1994 Michael Jordan White Sox jersey and pants listed on ther "Upcoming auction Preview". When I surfaced the fact that he never wore a home shirt in 1994 for a game, the description was revised from game worn to a "photo shoot/commercial" jersey.

Howard, don't play dumb.

I explained it to you because the staff at Grey Flannel deletes your emails without even opening them because they do not wish to communicate with you personally.

The Michael Jordan item was listed by the companies web designer without opening the attached paperwork. He made an advertisement for their next auction and mis-labeled a jersey.

Since then the item has proper paperwork as previously mentioned to be from an advertisement shoot. No issues here, it comes with a letter from the photographer who took the shoot. In fact, this item was corrected immediately when I contacted Grey Flannel about your concerns.

I will publicly apologize for the fact that Grey Flannel's web designer didn't look closely at an item before putting a tearer about it in their upcoming web preview.

I know, if you can't get a shot in at Grey Flannel your day is ruined, but they did nothing wrong here.

As for the jersey in the original discussion, we all know this is a serious issue that the original seller has used terms to divert the true issues for this and so many of their similar items.

[Nathan]

dcrobt,

I'm not directing anything your way here; I don't have reason to believe this was anything more than attempting to sell what was an inaccurately described item originally listed by PSI.

My beef is with Bernie at PSI, who certainly can't claim ignorance as to what a Peyton Manning jersey looks like. A team-issued or game-issued jersey is the same as one that will see the field/diamond/court/ice, only it never saw the field of play (that means same tailoring, same sleeves, same shortening/lengthening, etc). As has been mentioned here previously, there doesn't exist a single picture of Manning from 1994 to the present day that shows him wearing a jersey with short sleeves.

PSI looks to be doing what many others seem to be fond of doing, which is selling what seems to be a store-bought authentic as being in some way affiliated with the team/player/locker room. My beef is with PSI here, not you personally.

By the way, given how few posts I have compared to the duration of time that I've been around here hardly qualifies me as a "poor young person who does nothing except flame and troll". I'm quite satisfied with the scope of my collection...a Manning would be nice (although I'd prefer an orange and white Manning), but I'm not going to go for something like this myself (or insult anyone else who throws a red flag on the original source of the item).

[BigDiceBuddha]

I'm a bit confused. When you say that PSI is doing what "everyone else is doing" by buying store bought authentics, where can you buy authentic jerseys that are tailored to game day specifics?