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    Re: NL MVP Race should go to the wire!!!!

    Omar Infante is going to win the batting title, and Albert Pujols is the one on a team that won't make the playoffs, not Joey Votto.
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    Re: NL MVP Race should go to the wire!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by lakeerie92 View Post
    Omar Infante is going to win the batting title, and Albert Pujols is the one on a team that won't make the playoffs, not Joey Votto.
    Hahaha that's funny!

    The Braves have 29 games left to play and the qualifier is 502 Plate Appearances.

    Infante has 357 right now (ABs + BB + IBB) so he is 145 PAs shy.

    At an avg of 3.1 PAs a game (times 29) he will have 89.9 PAs the rest of the season if he plays every game all game.

    Even at 4.1 PAs per game he would end up short with just 118.9 more PAs.

    He would need to make 5.1 PAs EVERY Game for the REST of the season to make his 502 for the year. That would give him 147.9 more PAs. Just barely more than enough to qualify.

    Sorry to shoot that down, but that is FACTUAL based reality.

    - Chris

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    Re: NL MVP Race should go to the wire!!!!

    At that point he is penalized as going 0 for whatever plate appearences he is missing to qualify at 502. With a 14 point lead he will still proabably win the batting title. That too is FACTUAL.
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    Re: NL MVP Race should go to the wire!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by lakeerie92 View Post
    At that point he is penalized as going 0 for whatever plate appearences he is missing to qualify at 502. With a 14 point lead he will still proabably win the batting title. That too is FACTUAL.
    I forgot about the 'backdoor' rule, but he will still have to maintain where he is now for the rest of the season and taking an 0 for XX added to the average could drop it like a rock.

    Based on his current pace, he has approximately 1.12 hits per game played (115 hits / 102 games played). That projects to 35.5 more hits so lets call it 151 hits. (I missed the Oct games earlier, so there are 32 games left, not 29)

    If he comes up even 20 PAs shy, his average drops like a rock. If he gets 482 PAs with a projected 151 hits, his BA drops to .313. At 502 PAs it drops to .300.

    I'm not saying he can't do it, but the numbers don't project well unless he gets a lot of PAs with BB, IBB, HBP, etc. that don't affect his Avg.

    If he stays on his current pace of avg 4.9 PAs a game, he will get to 502 on his own, but even then if he stays on his avg of 1.12 hits per game, as stated above, he drops .041 points to .300.

    Like Cargo, Infante will have to hit a hot streak to keep his hopes alive. Staying on the pace he is on, his avg will steadily drop.

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    Re: NL MVP Race should go to the wire!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by xpress34 View Post
    I forgot about the 'backdoor' rule, but he will still have to maintain where he is now for the rest of the season and taking an 0 for XX added to the average could drop it like a rock.

    Based on his current pace, he has approximately 1.12 hits per game played (115 hits / 102 games played). That projects to 35.5 more hits so lets call it 151 hits. (I missed the Oct games earlier, so there are 32 games left, not 29)

    If he comes up even 20 PAs shy, his average drops like a rock. If he gets 482 PAs with a projected 151 hits, his BA drops to .313. At 502 PAs it drops to .300.

    I'm not saying he can't do it, but the numbers don't project well unless he gets a lot of PAs with BB, IBB, HBP, etc. that don't affect his Avg.

    If he stays on his current pace of avg 4.9 PAs a game, he will get to 502 on his own, but even then if he stays on his avg of 1.12 hits per game, as stated above, he drops .041 points to .300.

    Like Cargo, Infante will have to hit a hot streak to keep his hopes alive. Staying on the pace he is on, his avg will steadily drop.

    - Chris
    The math doesn't add up. You are saying 1.12 hits per game, but you are not factoring in that he spent the early part of the season coming in in pinch hit roles. That would be one at bat. You can't average games played with hits to tabulate that. That is why based on the math alone of him continuing at 1.12 hits a game his average still dropped 30 points on the math. Did this make sense?

    He does have to maintain a good bit to stay there and I will be surprised if he wins it, but as a Braves fan it would be nice for him to win the batting title and get some vindication for all the nay sayers who complained about his all star selection.
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    Re: NL MVP Race should go to the wire!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by lakeerie92 View Post
    The math doesn't add up. You are saying 1.12 hits per game, but you are not factoring in that he spent the early part of the season coming in in pinch hit roles. That would be one at bat. You can't average games played with hits to tabulate that. That is why based on the math alone of him continuing at 1.12 hits a game his average still dropped 30 points on the math. Did this make sense?

    He does have to maintain a good bit to stay there and I will be surprised if he wins it, but as a Braves fan it would be nice for him to win the batting title and get some vindication for all the nay sayers who complained about his all star selection.

    I agree with where you're coming from, but the exact thing you are saying is also why you can really only use the Avg formula to get an idea of where he might end up. If he doesn't play every day, every game for the entire game (i.e. he pinch hits, pinch runs, etc) his avg hits per game will balance out. Unfortunately, there is no stat for Innings played by a player - just games -and unlike pitchers I can't find a games started stat either to get a better picture.

    I wish them all the best and hope to see a very good race to the end...

    - Chris

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    Re: NL MVP Race should go to the wire!!!!

    That is a valid point too.
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