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    Re: NL MVP Race should go to the wire!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by legaleagle92481 View Post
    5 games is nothing with a month and change left to play. They have 3 head to head games left. The Cards have much, much more experience and the better overall team and superior coaching. The Mets blew a 7.5 game lead with 17 games to play once so five with over a month is not a huge deal. The Reds will fold in September/October of that I am confidant.
    So 5 games is nothing but the 4.5 for the Rockies for the Wild card is insurmountable??? Therefore keeping Cargo out of the playoffs???

    Counselor -you should know that you can't make an a argument for one side of the court without giving equal time to the other which is exactly what you are stating.

    The Rockies have a history of getting hot in September and the Giants and Phillies aren't untouchable either.

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    Re: NL MVP Race should go to the wire!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by xpress34 View Post
    So 5 games is nothing but the 4.5 for the Rockies for the Wild card is insurmountable??? Therefore keeping Cargo out of the playoffs???

    Counselor -you should know that you can't make an a argument for one side of the court without giving equal time to the other which is exactly what you are stating.

    The Rockies have a history of getting hot in September and the Giants and Phillies aren't untouchable either.
    I didn't mention them because they have to jump three teams and imo the Phils don't choke. The Phils have gotten this far with most of their key guys being on the DL for one streach or another but now they are all back. They have won the NL two years in a row, have a loaded team of stars with pressure experience, so I just cannot see them coughing it up. Which is why I didn't mention the WC for the Reds or Cards earlier as well. The Rocks may very well get hot but it won't be enough.

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    Re: NL MVP Race should go to the wire!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by legaleagle92481 View Post
    I didn't mention them because they have to jump three teams and imo the Phils don't choke. The Phils have gotten this far with most of their key guys being on the DL for one streach or another but now they are all back. They have won the NL two years in a row, have a loaded team of stars with pressure experience, so I just cannot see them coughing it up. Which is why I didn't mention the WC for the Reds or Cards earlier as well. The Rocks may very well get hot but it won't be enough.
    The Rockies too have had major parts out on the DL all season long including 3/5s of their Starting Rotation (Tulo, Cargo, Fowler, Helton, Francis, Cook, Dela Rosa)- it's not like the Phils are the only team to deal with that - plus losing their Team President Keli McGregor the 1st week of the season.

    I guess we'll just have to see how it all plays out... Phils did choke again tonight with their ACE (Halladay) on the hill in LA. They got 1 hit.

    I'm just saying...

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    Re: NL MVP Race should go to the wire!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by legaleagle92481 View Post
    They have won the NL two years in a row, have a loaded team of stars with pressure experience, so I just cannot see them coughing it up. Which is why I didn't mention the WC for the Reds or Cards earlier as well. The Rocks may very well get hot but it won't be enough.
    I didn't know the Phils were the only team with stars who have pressure experience. Thanks for educating me...

    They can cough it up just like the Rox did last year. Colorado had Phillies number in the Division Series but Huston Street gave up the winning run in Game 3 and gave up 3 runs to lose Game 4.

    I love reading revisionist history that makes it sound like the Phils rolled the Rockies last year (not saying that you said that).

    Again, I guess we'll see how it plays out.

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    Re: NL MVP Race should go to the wire!!!!

    Check the remaining scheds. except for two series with Atlanta the Phils have more cupcakes then a bakery. The Rox except for two series vs. Arizona play the Reds, Pods, Cards, Dodgers and Giants, all over .500 and most in the playoff chase in some cases for multiple series. They have zero head to head games. By pressure experience I meant the Phils have played more postseason games over the last three years than ANY other team. Oswalt is new but he has been to the Series with Houston and the NLCS. Halladay is no experience but he is one of top three pitchers in the game. Rest of the team has pretty much been there each year.

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    Re: NL MVP Race should go to the wire!!!!

    While I am not going to say that the Cardinals cannot come back from what is now a 6 game defecit, they have hardly been playing inspired baseball. In fact since they swept the Reds what 3 weeks ago, they have absolutely played horrible baseball against many celler dwellers in the NL.

    People have been saying all year that the Reds are going to falter, when is this going to happen. They have one month left and have given us 5 months worth of quality baseball. In fact, the Reds and Cards are going in opposite directions. While I would agree, on paper, the Cardinals have the better team, I am beginning to wonder if they are just going to completely underachieve this year and the Reds end up pulling it out.

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    Wow, no one wants to give anyone or even the team (Padres) any credit?

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    Re: NL MVP Race should go to the wire!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by LastingsMilledge85 View Post
    Wow, no one wants to give anyone or even the team (Padres) any credit?
    Milledge -

    Since they play in the same division as my Rox, I wasn't going to mention them by name, but they are playing absolutely inspired baseball. with only one real 'star' name - AG.

    My buddy and I were talking and at this point, if they stay playing the way they have all year, and the Rox won out the season, the Rox would still come up short on catching them for the NL West.

    I'm not asking for the West title, just a serious knock down drag out fight for the Wild Card to finish the season.

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    Re: NL MVP Race should go to the wire!!!!

    Not that he is a candidate, but Ryan Howard will win the RBI crown.

    Votto is having a better year than Pujols.
    looking for Phillies GU bats

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    Re: NL MVP Race should go to the wire!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Neal View Post
    Not that he is a candidate, but Ryan Howard will win the RBI crown.

    Votto is having a better year than Pujols.
    Why do you think Howard over the three players in front of him?

 

 

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