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  • Dach0sen0ne
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 872

    American League ROY???

    Feliz? Jackson? What do you guys think?
  • r_phelps
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 300

    #2
    Re: American League ROY???

    I'm going to have to say Austin Jackson he's had a very solid season.

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    • justinbittner220
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 586

      #3
      Re: American League ROY???

      I'll go with Jackson.

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      • Fnazxc0114
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2007
        • 1252

        #4
        Re: American League ROY???

        Im biassed but i have to go with feliz. How many games has Jackson won with his bat? More than 20+ of his saves have come in one run games. Without him the rangers wouldnt have one as many games as they have. He also pitches in one of the best hitters parks in baseball. He's dominant and other teams fear him.
        Baseball do what it do
        -Ron Washington

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        • Fnazxc0114
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2007
          • 1252

          #5
          Re: American League ROY???

          295 batting average 4 homeruns and 37 rbi's and 160+ k's those numbers dont exactly wow you. Feliz is a shutdown closer and jackson looks like a bit piece on a bad team. I know ESPN has hyped him up but those numbers wouldnt strike fear into many AL pitchers.
          Baseball do what it do
          -Ron Washington

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          • sportscrazy13
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2007
            • 243

            #6
            Re: American League ROY???

            I would vote Feliz. Jacksons 161 strike outs is bad especially for a leadoff man.
            Gary
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            • sox83cubs84
              Banned
              • Apr 2009
              • 8902

              #7
              Re: American League ROY???

              MLB.com has a poll regarding this question as I write this. Feliz leads at 37%, with Jackson at 34%, and other players garnering 20% or less. For the record, I voted for Feliz.

              Dave Miedema

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              • Dach0sen0ne
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2010
                • 872

                #8
                Re: American League ROY???

                Austin Jackson just scored his 100th run of the season. He just joined a rookie group that has at least 100 runs, 170 hits, 30 doubles, 10 triples, and 20 steals. Only nine rookies in the common era, that's since 1901, have been able to reach all of those marks. Those players are: Shoeless Joe Jackson (1911), Roy Johnson (1929), Evar Swanson (1929), Barney McCosky (1939), Minnie Minoso (1951), Juan Samuel (1984), Nomar Garciaparra (1997), and Hanley Ramirez (2006). Just saying, cause that's my guy.

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                • LastingsMilledge85
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2009
                  • 1438

                  #9
                  Re: American League ROY???

                  Originally posted by Dach0sen0ne
                  Austin Jackson just scored his 100th run of the season. He just joined a rookie group that has at least 100 runs, 170 hits, 30 doubles, 10 triples, and 20 steals. Only nine rookies in the common era, that's since 1901, have been able to reach all of those marks. Those players are: Shoeless Joe Jackson (1911), Roy Johnson (1929), Evar Swanson (1929), Barney McCosky (1939), Minnie Minoso (1951), Juan Samuel (1984), Nomar Garciaparra (1997), and Hanley Ramirez (2006). Just saying, cause that's my guy.
                  Sorry to rain on your parade, but did you happen to see what Neftali did today?

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                  • Fnazxc0114
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 1252

                    #10
                    Re: American League ROY???

                    I know what he did, he set the record for most saves by a rookie playing the most stressful position in baseball.
                    Baseball do what it do
                    -Ron Washington

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                    • Manram
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 1151

                      #11
                      Re: American League ROY???

                      I would go with Feliz. Jackson has a good average, but way to many strikeouts.

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                      • Fnazxc0114
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 1252

                        #12
                        Re: American League ROY???

                        You forgot to mention that he leads the league in strikeouts. That wouldnt be too bad if he were a power hitter and not a leadoff hitter.
                        Baseball do what it do
                        -Ron Washington

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                        • legaleagle92481
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 2538

                          #13
                          Re: American League ROY???

                          I wonder if some even those in the media who come up with some of the award winner picks actually watch games and keep track of stats. ROY is a stats based award. Always has been always will be. Jackson has been overhyped because he was a yankee prospect who like all yankee tradechips uh prospects is talked about as the next Mickey Mantle. He is a good fielder and has good speed but the rest of his game needs alot of work. Four home runs is a pathetic total for any major league regular outfielder, especially a "five tool" one as he has been touted as. He has 39 RBIs again a pathetic total for any major league regular. He has 162 whiffs verus 45 walks a ratio like that is pathetic for any hitter even more so for a lead off hitter. Yes he has a decent .ba (keep in mind he is over 60 points behind Hamilton in the batting race so that is why I say decent rather than good or great or high) which he should have as a speed guy who hits groundballs most of the time. He reminds me alot of Juan Pierre. If you have a fantasy league team you love him for his steals, runs scored and average but his other flaws prevent him from ever being anything special and he ends up bouncing around the league.

                          Feliz meanwhile has been amazing for a 22 year old closer pitching in one of the greatest hitters parks in baseball. He has more strikeouts than innings pitched and 38 saves in 41 chances (which would be great for any closer let alone a rookie). So to me it should not even be a discussion on who should be ROY.

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                          • sox83cubs84
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 8902

                            #14
                            Re: American League ROY???

                            Is Austin Jackson the next Gordan Beckham?

                            Dave Miedema

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                            • legaleagle92481
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 2538

                              #15
                              Re: American League ROY???

                              Originally posted by sox83cubs84
                              Is Austin Jackson the next Gordan Beckham?

                              Dave Miedema
                              I think it is hard to compare an infielder to an outfielder plus Beckham does not have the speed and ability to hit for average that Jackson does but he has more power. IMO Juan Pierre is the perfect comparison so much so that it is eerie:

                              1. Both began their career as centerfielders
                              2. Both hit close to .300 with alot of stolen bases and close to 200 hits with 90 plus runs.
                              3. Both exhibit almost zero power and knock in very few runs.
                              4. Both are among the few active players who hit alot of triples.
                              5. Both were low round draft picks.

                              The main difference is Pierre is a great contact hitter who rarely strikes out and Jackson whiffs constantly but that may improve as he gets experience.

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