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    Are the Rockies Cheaters?

    This is why I believe Carlos Gonzalez won't win the MVP. People rip players for steroids, corking bats, doctoring the baseball, or even the patriots for recording walk throughs and stealing play calls. Players and teams will continue to cheat and look for unfair advantages.

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    Re: Are the Rockies Cheaters?

    It is an interesting question. I do know the difference between this and steroids, or corking a bat is a pretty big one actually. It is not the players cheating, or the coaches, or manager for that matter (if it is actually going on in the first place).

    The MLB is now overseeing the humidor, which they should have done all along. I am sure that will affect Carlos's MVP chances, but should it? He didn't cheat. There is no evidence of the Rockies cheating.

    It's a different story if there is evidence proving this.

    This argument is that the Rockies are putting balls not from the humidor into the game late in ballgames. This would explain the Rockies great numbers late in games. The one issue with that argument is that the Rockies have scored 369 Runs in the first 4 innings of games this season, and they have scored 372 in the last 5.

    I have no opinion on whether the Rockies do this, the only thing I would say is that "Jim Tracy and the Rockies Management would never do something like this", but I know they wouldn't be aware if this were going on.

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    Re: Are the Rockies Cheaters?

    Yes, yes they are.

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    Re: Are the Rockies Cheaters?

    The Rockies may be cheating, but it should not affect cargo's mvp chances. It's not like he is cheating or doing something that he can change

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    Re: Are the Rockies Cheaters?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manram View Post
    The Rockies may be cheating, but it should not affect cargo's mvp chances. It's not like he is cheating or doing something that he can change
    Then his numbers are inflated and his team may have won more games. Don't numbers and a winning team, the most important part of being the mvp.

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    Re: Are the Rockies Cheaters?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bondsgloves View Post
    Then his numbers are inflated and his team may have won more games. Don't numbers and a winning team, the most important part of being the mvp.
    Yes, but if he is doing nothing wrong in the first place, and there is no proof that the Rockies are cheating. He can't have the MVP not given to him on a Jon Miller hunch.

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    Re: Are the Rockies Cheaters?

    Something to chew on...
    Gonzalez #'s home/away in basically same amt of games and ab's

    Avg:
    Home- .390
    Away .293

    HR
    Home- 25
    Away- 8

    RBI
    Home- 73
    Away- 41

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    Re: Are the Rockies Cheaters?

    Quote Originally Posted by kellsox View Post
    Something to chew on...
    Gonzalez #'s home/away in basically same amt of games and ab's

    Avg:
    Home- .390
    Away .293

    HR
    Home- 25
    Away- 8

    RBI
    Home- 73
    Away- 41
    He has much better home splits. This however, does not have anything to do with somebody from the Rockies organization possibly throwing in a ball not from the humidor in the 7th or 8th inning.

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    Re: Are the Rockies Cheaters?

    Quote Originally Posted by skier14 View Post
    He has much better home splits. This however, does not have anything to do with somebody from the Rockies organization possibly throwing in a ball not from the humidor in the 7th or 8th inning.
    If they have ball that are not in the humidor it isn't just one person doing it that knows about it. The bat boys would have to be in on it along with most the people on the team. The bat boys deliver the balls to the umpire and would have to know which ones to use. It is a team cheating not one individual cheating for them. If it is true that is.
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    Re: Are the Rockies Cheaters?

    Quote Originally Posted by lakeerie92 View Post
    If they have ball that are not in the humidor it isn't just one person doing it that knows about it. The bat boys would have to be in on it along with most the people on the team. The bat boys deliver the balls to the umpire and would have to know which ones to use. It is a team cheating not one individual cheating for them. If it is true that is.
    True, it is not one person, but it isn't the players and the manager. It would be the umpires assistant, clubhouse manager, batboys etc.

    But it still is not the players cheating or knowing about it.

 

 

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