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Thread: HOF Day - Alomar and Blyleven
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01-06-2011, 10:15 AM #11
Re: HOF Day - Alomar and Blyleven
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01-06-2011, 12:35 PM #12
Re: HOF Day - Alomar and Blyleven
17 of 22 seasons - 200+ IP
8 of 22 seasons - 200+ K
242 CG and 60 SO in 22 years (that's an avg of 12 CG and 3 SO a year)
3705 K (5th all time)
His line avg for a 162 game season:
14W - 12L (.534 W %) ; 3.31 ERA ; 34 GS - 12 CG - 3 SO ; 242 IP ; 183 K
I'll take that AVG over a 22 season anyday
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01-06-2011, 12:43 PM #13
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01-06-2011, 12:51 PM #14
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Re: HOF Day - Alomar and Blyleven
I guess I just didn't see him pitch enough but to me he was just very good over a long period of time. I just don't think of greatness when I think of Blyleven's career. I don't think you can say he was the dominant pitcher of his era or even a top 5 guy really. But who am I to say. He got in and that's all that counts. He's been waiting a long time for this so you have to be happy for the guy.
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01-06-2011, 05:12 PM #15
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Re: HOF Day - Alomar and Blyleven
Blyleven does not strike me as a hall of fame pitcher. His stats were an accumulation of being a good pitcher for an extended period of time. during that extended time i dont believe he was close to being a "feared" pitcher A 14-12 average record screams above average to me, not greatness. Seems to be getting a little easier to get into the hall of fame. He probably is a better candidate for the "hall of very good"
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01-06-2011, 07:42 PM #16
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Re: HOF Day - Alomar and Blyleven
In no particular order, he ranks right up in this top 5 of the greatest 2nd basemen to ever play the game including Jackie Robinson, Rogers Hornsby, Joe Morgan, Eddie Collins and maybe Nap Lajoie. I have always seen him ranked ahead of Sandberg, Carew, etc.
In every list I have ever seen he is listed in the top 3 - 5 usually of all time by the people who study this stuff for a living.
He was a magician with a glove and at one point in the 90's was one of the top 5 players in baseball at any position when you consider he could hit for average, steal bases, incredible defense, had some pop to his bat etc.
Just my take
Joe
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01-06-2011, 07:43 PM #17
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Re: HOF Day - Alomar and Blyleven
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01-06-2011, 08:00 PM #18
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Longevity doesn't equal greatness( although it can). In blyleven's case it shows the ability to pitch consistently and avoid career/perfomance ending injury. In 22 seasons He made 2 all-star teams, finished in the top 10 in cy young voting 4 times and won 20 games 1 time. That doesnt seem like someone who is deserving of being honored as one of baseballs all time greats.
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01-06-2011, 08:35 PM #19
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You can use this to see how Blyleven stacks up against other great/future HOF players. I was shocked to see how close he was to Maddux in many of the categories.
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01-06-2011, 11:44 PM #20
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