Albert Pujols Batting practice bat not game used!!

[basketballbones]

You guys are comic relief to say the very least!!! You guys have your heads in the sand and where have I made any personal attacks maybe go back to shoremen44 and read his thread as if you can read right he is the one who used profane language drawing attention to him not me. The moderators have agendas keeping out posts they don't want people to see on here a fact and to email a seller about a questionable item auction was already over, or would have emailed seller on bat would of denied anyways what's the point would of continued auction and deceit all potential bidders by not disclosing was a bp bat and tape was removed. Thanks for the free comic relief tonight without any admission how can you beat that. Albert pujols 2002 Rawlings game used BP bat 1,235 with tape missing PRICELESS!!! Maybe coming soon a perfect grade for the bp bat will be the next thing just icing on the cake!!

[basketballbones]

NT Eagle do you read posts correctly as it seems like you need some glasses! I NEVER EVER SAID THAT BALL PARK HEROES IS AT FAULT FOR ANYTHING!!! The new seller of the bat shoremen44 is the one who sold as game used as Ball Park Heroes FULLY DISCLOSED THAT WAS ONLY A BP BAT AND HAD A COA WITH PICS OF THAT BAT and I did not save the auction itself, but wrote down the important info on the knob as knew this would come back as game used tape being removed then saying game used can CLEARLY SEE WHERE THE TAPE WAS DOES NOT TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTIST!! I'm sure Bert is a swell guy to all you, but he did not disclose even that there was tape on bat at one time and I'm sure that he knows enough about bats to see the remnants of that and still no mention of that anywhere other than Pujols trademark pine tar give me a break!!! Maybe Ball Park Heroes still has a copy of the COA as there was a #5 on both ends of bat just like the one on ebay. If what I wrote about the bat as being a personal attack then all of you got to look at your selves in the mirror as every day on this forum you are personally attacking people you just don't like it when it's at you!!

[gingi79]

You guys are comic relief to say the very least!!! You guys have your heads in the sand and where have I made any personal attacks maybe go back to shoremen44 and read his thread as if you can read right he is the one who used profane language drawing attention to him not me.

If someone with no proof came on this or any website and made a claim that you purchased an item, modified it for profit and then lied about it, wouldn't you tell them to kiss off? Wait! This thread alone has shown your angry and confrontational demeanor! Your quote above proves my point. And he wasn't attacking you, he was telling you that you are wrong and with no proof are accusing him of deceiving and modifying a bat to make it what it isn't. Your quote above also shows you think we are all too stupid to see blatant fraudulent activity. Personal attack. I'll ask again, point out to us ostriches here on GUU, how do you know?

The moderators have agendas keeping out posts they don't want people to see on here a fact

If you honestly believe that, what purpose does this thread serve and why are you wasting your time posting here? This isn't mandatory reading and posting here isn't your homework. If you think we are all a bunch of idiots who support fake items and protecting shysters you obviously aren't reading the threads nor are you contributing.

[nt_eagle]

Obviously the booze is speaking for this kid...

[nt_eagle]

"Where the Tape does was" sold me.

[nt_eagle]

Or vice versa, needless to say...Case Closed!

[basketballbones]

I'm sorry Gingi your a senior member on here, so you must know everything there is about anything game used and about how this forum works all the rules etc,etc.... What do you get for being a senior member a free bowl of soup? If Bert has nothing to hide then he should show his original receipt on bat without tape being present if then he has nothing to hide. Every single day on this forum people comment on items without any proof just spewing there nonsense uneducated opinions! My comments are right on and Bert said purchased through Mastro what catalog year and month. DO YOUR HOMEWORK THAT'S THE FORUM MOTTO, well in this case the homework was not done buyer bought an over priced bp bat, but will be graded soon and passed onto someone else as game used not bp it's the gift that keeps on giving!!

[basketballbones]

Gingi, how is commenting on a questionable, misrepresented item considered a personal attack and how against forum rules? I would think then everyone on here that posts on an item they ? should be then thrown off as that's a personal attack on the person right? With all the posts I should be at your senior level by now.

[gingi79]

I'm sorry Gingi your a senior member on here, so you must know everything there is about anything game used and about how this forum works all the rules etc,etc....

No, I don't know everything, that would be why I don't post accusations without proof. I do know the rules of this board, especially since they are required reading to join the site and they are enforced.

What do you get for being a senior member a free bowl of soup?

No, actually I have the satisfaction of starting threads like "What is you White Whale" with many pages of responses and coincidentally, coining a term in this hobby. You'll find it was not used to describe your most coveted item until that thread but shows up in many new threads as a term collectors use for their "grail" now. I also have the pleasure of posting sports commentary and humor as well as interjecting insight gleamed from years of experience listening to people who know more than I.

If Bert has nothing to hide then he should show his original receipt on bat without tape being present if then he has nothing to hide.

You can take this up with him if you wish. I would say posting "Bert, I had some questions about the bat you had up, how it was obtained and it's characteristics including tape being at the bottom at one point perhaps? Then he could have posted his details and maybe we all could have learned something. Calling someone a crook and a thief and then demanding proof of something only you seem to see and can't substantiate will not get a positive response, from anyone.

Every single day on this forum people comment on items without any proof just spewing there nonsense uneducated opinions!

Again I ask you, can you produce any such threads? I know when certain members post findings they are backed up with pictures (Robert who posts as Aeneas01 for example in regards to helmet) Others like Dave Mediema are posting from years and years of hands on experience. Certain hobbyests have earned the right to post questions about items from their experience but always seem to back it up with facts and details on where to see those facts in real life exemplars.


Maybe the third time is the charm. The burden of proof is not on Bert to prove his bat is not the one you think it is. The burden is on YOU to prove that you have seen dead on match to a BP bat, lining up bat rack marks, ball marks, dings etc to the bat he claims is not. Until you can do so, you are engaging in a personal attack. Why won't you furnish any of this so called proof?

[gingi79]

Gingi, how is commenting on a questionable, misrepresented item considered a personal attack and how against forum rules?

I'll use your own words to answer your questions

....blatantly not what buyer was buying Bert knew that was a BP bat not game used and profited very nice!!!

That is an accusation. You claim he doctored the bat but provided not a stitch of evidence. You called him a thief and a liar without documenting the reasons why. If I were to say Pujols is a steroid user and I know because he couldn't possibly be that good without them, I'd be attacking him without any proof. I would be saying he is a cheater and a liar because other people just like him were using steroids so he must be using them as well. How is that any different than what you said?

I would think then everyone on here that posts on an item they ? should be then thrown off as that's a personal attack on the person right?

I'm still waiting for you to produce a single thread that has questions without insight and substantiating proof of questioning an item, claiming to see things the rest of us don't and claiming the item was purchased from eBay or BPH but not showing pictures or directing people to where this supposed bat was listed elsewhere.

With all the posts I should be at your senior level by now.

Your right. If we continue this discussion much longer, you will be.