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02-20-2011, 04:33 PM #1
Who are your top current first ballot hall of famers playing today?
Who are the people playing right now that you think are a 100% first ballot hall of famer?
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02-20-2011, 05:00 PM #2
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Re: Who are your top current first ballot hall of famers playing today?
Derek Jeter could retire tomorrow and he's a first-ballot HOFer in every respect: on the field (offense, defense, brains) and off the field as well.
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02-20-2011, 05:20 PM #3
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Re: Who are your top current first ballot hall of famers playing today?
Buster Posey
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02-20-2011, 05:25 PM #4
Re: Who are your top current first ballot hall of famers playing today?
Not so sure anymore... I thought Bagwell was first ballot and he didnt pull anywhere close.
That said a couple no-brainers in my book - Jeter, Pujols, Mariano Rivera, Thome, Vlad, Chipper, Ichiro.
Still some work to do / years to accumulate but well on track, Joe Mauer, Adam Dunn, Miguel Cabrera.
I'd say Manny Ramirez, Ivan Rodriguez and Alex Rodriguez, but no telling how the steroid issue will be impacting voting when he becomes eligible... Thats a real wild card, none of us thought McGwire would have an issue with a year or two left in his career.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Wes Campbell
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02-20-2011, 05:56 PM #5
Re: Who are your top current first ballot hall of famers playing today?
Regards, Tony
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02-20-2011, 11:36 PM #6
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Re: Who are your top current first ballot hall of famers playing today?
Jeter, Pujols, Thome, Mo Rivera, Cliff Lee, Halladay, assuming none of the above are found guilty of steroid use (and I don't believe that any of them will).
Dave Miedema
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02-21-2011, 12:12 AM #7
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Re: Who are your top current first ballot hall of famers playing today?
Well if I look at it as who I would bet my own money on as first ballot players still playing today I would only put my money on Jeter, Rivera, Pujols and Ichiro.
I think Chipper has a good chance but I wouldn't bet on him as first ballot.
Thome and Guerrero are two players I believe are going to take a hit early on, just for being power hitters in the steroid era. They haven't tested positive or come up in any reports that I know of but I think its just the trend of how the voting has been as of late. I think they will be similar to Bagwell in that respect. Bagwell likely gets in first ballot if there weren't voters who suspected him but he's never been proven to have used.
The players linked to PEDs like ARod, Manny etc. I think do not have much of a chance at first ballot.
There are lots of younger hitters who could get there but aren't there as of today.
I don't think any other pitchers have the credentials yet. Halladay & Sabathia seem to have the best shots if they continue to perform. Santana could have been up there but it seems hes got an uphill climb just to be a healthy player ever again. Cliff Lee, while at the top of his game right now, is 32 with only 102 wins and a 3.85 ERA so I don't think he has a prayer.
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02-21-2011, 01:03 AM #8
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02-21-2011, 02:56 PM #9
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02-21-2011, 04:44 PM #10
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Re: Who are your top current first ballot hall of famers playing today?
IMO the only locks right now are Jeter and Pujols. Mariano is deserving but a closer has NEVER made it on the first ballot. Eck did but he started for awhile. Guerrero and Jones won't have 500 plus homers or 3,000 hits. Vlad will take hits for being a nomad and for his poor post season play as well. And Jones will be hit for having so many injures and mediocre defense. Can you say that Jones is superior to Bagwell? Or the Vlad is superior to Juan Gonzalez? Neither one of those guys is in the Hall and neither has tested positive or admitted to steroid use. Nor is there a smoking gun in either case. Canseco said Gonzalez used big deal he also said Clemens didnt. For that matter was Jones really better than the late, great Ron Santo? If Santo had Maddux, Glavine and Smoltz and three divisional play he would have been to postseason alot also. as far as Ichiro, he will make it but is he really first ballot? Many view him as a singles hitter on lousy teams who will fall short of 3,000 hits. His high batting average means zip because guys like Todd Helton and Larry Walker have that and noone is putting those guys in. Also Bill Madlock won alot of batting titles and never made it. as for the starters. Santana has not been an ace in years and is always hurt and Saberhagen also won two CYs before going to Mets and not getting close to the Hall. He needs some big years fast. Sabathia will get in first ballot if he hits 300 wins if not he will have to wait as he has nice win totals but is he really league's best pitcher/ or even top three? Halladay with one more Cy Young, a ring and 225 plus career wins will be first ballot, otherwise he wont be. Linecum looks like he will be if he has seven more years like his last three. None of the guys linked to Roids or PEDS with smoking gun or credible evidence will get in 1st ballot such as Sosa, Clemens, Bonds, Pudge, Arod, Manny, Petitite. will they get in later? who knows. Cliff Lee won't have enough big years or wins. remember all those postseason heroics he still is ringless and was in the minors four or five years ago. Thome if he hits 600 will be first ballot if not probably not because he was not dominate enough many view him as a one dimensonal guy. Adam Dunn, prince Fielder and Ryan Howard won't for same reason as Thome unless they too top 600 homers. Hanley Ramirez, Evan Longoria, Miguel Cabrea, David Wright, Ryan Braun and Joe Mauer all are on right track but have a long way to go. Felix Hernandez has a shot if he gets to a better team and starts racking up the wins.