Show off your Pittsburgh Pirates items!

[frikativ54]

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Who wore that white pinstripe jersey of yours?

You're back, Lastings!!!! Howdy.

[ChuckFoPrez]

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Hey Lastings,

It was a blank so there is no number. Actually, come to think of it, none of those jerseys have numbers on them. I may have to change that

[Shipp_96]

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Thanks Shipp!

Man we got so screwed on that call last night. Let's take the next 2 off Atlanta then 2 of 3 from the Phils to make up for it!

Yeah, there are bad calls and there was that one. Sadly, the lose last night took some wind out of the Buccos sails, because they just lost 2-1 in the bottom of the 10th (only) tonight.

I do hope they can continue their magic against Filth-a-delphia.

[Shipp_96]

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I got ahold of this orange seatback from Three Rivers, with Jay Bell's Pittsburgh number, '3', on it, made a sort of collage, and got Jay to sign and inscribe it for me a few years ago.



No photo immediately available, but I've also got Jay's field jacket from the '94 season.

I loved me some Jay Bell back in the day. I was glad he finally got his ring with Arizona. I still remember when he won his gold glove and broke the Wizard's strangle hold on the award at short. Nice seat and shot of Three Rivers!

[Shipp_96]

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I was really happy to see the Buccos get a couple veteran bats, even if it were only marginal veteran players like Derrek Lee and Ryan Ludwick, for near nothing in return.

I know the critics will pan these moves (as I do to an extend on ownership's cheapness), but Lee is a MAJOR improvement from Overbay at first base and Ludwick will help solidify an outfield that already has studs like All Star Andrew McCutchen and Neil Walker.

At this point, ANY offense is a good offense for this team! I just fear too little to late, as it came after a rough Philly series.

Thank goodness the Cubs come to town, and I think a series sweep is realistic and can possibly propel them back into first by week's end!

[Shipp_96]

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Though the Buccos are reverting back to the Succos and are about to be back to a .500 team, against the lowly Cubs no less, I still have hope.

Just added this bad boy to my collection, fan favorite Jack Wilson BP jersey!

[Shipp_96]

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A nice historical piece, Pirates Jason Schmidt game worn jersey from 1997. I just LOVE this style with the pinstripes and cursive Pittsburgh font!

So, long and short of it, not only does it have the Jackie Robinson patch, but this was the LAST YEAR anyone could wear #42 in the MLB, before they retired the number. Jason was one of the LAST players (defiantly the last Pirate) to wear this number, before he was forced to switch (to #22, as is).

Great jersey from a great player, and a nice guy to boot from when I met him years ago!

[frikativ54]

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A nice historical piece, Pirates Jason Schmidt game worn jersey from 1997. I just LOVE this style with the pinstripes and cursive Pittsburgh font!

So, long and short of it, not only does it have the Jackie Robinson patch, but this was the LAST YEAR anyone could wear #42 in the MLB, before they retired the number. Jason was one of the LAST players (defiantly the last Pirate) to wear this number, before he was forced to switch (to #22, as is).

I thought players who were already wearing #42 could continue for the duration of their careers. Hence, Mariano Rivera. Where the Pirates different from other teams with regards to wearing Robinson's number?

[Shipp_96]

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I thought players who were already wearing #42 could continue for the duration of their careers. Hence, Mariano Rivera. Where the Pirates different from other teams with regards to wearing Robinson's number?

I did some research, and found this out:

"When MLB decided to retire 42 in 1997, acting commissioner Bud Selig announced that to honor Jackie Robinson no player from now on will be issued the late Hall of Famer's number. However, the players who currently wear the number can keep it for the rest of their careers. The 12 major-league players wearing No. 42 as of Tuesday night:

Mo Vaughn, Boston
Butch Huskey, New York Mets
Tom Goodwin, Kansas City
Mariano Rivera, New York Yankees
Mike Jackson, Cleveland
Lenny Webster, Baltimore
Jason Schmidt, Pittsburgh
Jose Lima, Houston
Scott Karl, Milwaukee
Dennis Cook, Florida
Kirk Rueter, San Francisco
x-Marc Sagmoen, Texas

x-Sagmoen, who made his major-league debut Tuesday night, was randomly assigned 42 by the Rangers when he joined the team. After the game, he announced he would switch to No. 37 because he did not feel ``worthy'' to wear 42.

Jason Schmidt was the last player on the Pirates to wear number 42, as all of Major League Baseball retired it for Jackie Robinson in 1997. Schmidt then switched to number 22 for the remainder of his stay with the team, and has worn number 29 after leaving the Pirates."

It does not really say he was forced to switch, or did it by his own volition. Still a nice historical Buccos piece to own .

[sox83cubs84]

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I thought players who were already wearing #42 could continue for the duration of their careers. Hence, Mariano Rivera. Where the Pirates different from other teams with regards to wearing Robinson's number?

The two Chicago teams had no regular season wearers of #42 in 1997. Roger McDowell wore #42 in spring training with the White Sox, but was cut, and the Cub that had #42, coach Dan Radison, voluntarily gave it up in favor of #3.

Dave Miedema

[frikativ54]

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The two Chicago teams had no regular season wearers of #42 in 1997. Roger McDowell wore #42 in spring training with the White Sox, but was cut, and the Cub that had #42, coach Dan Radison, voluntarily gave it up in favor of #3.

Dave Miedema

I'll bet there was a lot of pressure to switch numbers. Not sure I like the idea of all teams retiring #42. If so, why wasn't the honor extended to Clemente and #21?

[Shipp_96]

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I'll bet there was a lot of pressure to switch numbers. Not sure I like the idea of all teams retiring #42. If so, why wasn't the honor extended to Clemente and #21?

Interesting argument, I read up on this and found the following information:

"Roberto Clemente was elected to the Hall of Fame posthumously in 1973, thus becoming the first Latin American to be selected and the only current Hall of Famer for whom the mandatory five-year waiting period has been waived since the wait was instituted in 1954. Clemente is also the first Hispanic player to win a World Series as a starter (1960), win a league MVP award (1966) and win a World Series MVP award (1971).
Clemente's #21 remains active in Major League Baseball, and is worn by multiple players. Sammy Sosa wore #21 throughout his career as a tribute to his childhood hero.[61] The number is unofficially retired in the Puerto Rico Baseball League. While the topic of retiring #21 throughout Major League Baseball like Jackie Robinson's #42 has been broached, and supported by groups such as Hispanics Across America, Jackie Robinson's daughter disagrees, believing that Major League Baseball should honor him another way."


I actually found that last sentence disturbing, and bordering on petty. So it's OK for you father to have this great honor bestowed upon him, but not Roberto, who was every bit as significant to the Latin community? I don't know if I agree with her vague reason, either.

But, maybe it is better that players can honor Roberto by wearing his number as opposed to retiring it league wide.

[71buc]

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Hi, I'm new here. I don't have any Pirate GU items but this is my favorite Pirate piece. I will be at PNC in two weeks for the first time. I haven't been to a game in Pittsburgh since 1985 or Cleveland since 1995. Games at Safeco have been excruciating to watch this year. I am certainly looking forward to seeing the Pirates and the Tribe.

[Shipp_96]

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Hi, I'm new here. I don't have any Pirate GU items but this is my favorite Pirate piece. I will be at PNC in two weeks for the first time. I haven't been to a game in Pittsburgh since 1985 or Cleveland since 1995. Games at Safeco have been excruciating to watch this year. I am certainly looking forward to seeing the Pirates and the Tribe.

Welcome to the site! That is a great Roberto signed piece you have there. I myself have been to Safeco twice this year, and as bad it was, it doesn't compare to the cliff the Pirates have driven off since last weekend .

Wow, you went to your Pirate game nearly when I saw my first! I never made it out to PNC Park, either, and kind of regret not doing so now that I am on the west coast again. Enjoy your trip and make sure to share some pictures!

[sox83cubs84]

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[quote=frikativ54;261298]I'll bet there was a lot of pressure to switch numbers. Not sure I like the idea of all teams retiring #42. If so, why wasn't the honor extended to Clemente and #21?[/quote

For that matter, how about Babe Ruth's #3? After all, he only saved a sport seriously wounded by the Black Sox Scandal.

Dave Miedema