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03-29-2012, 08:15 PM #101
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Re: Show off your clear shell helmets
Robert, love the ISU helmet. Any chance you would consider offers on it?
Andy
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03-29-2012, 10:08 PM #102
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Re: Show off your clear shell helmets
Originally Posted by John in KY
Originally Posted by tom1315
yes, the delaware helmet that recently sold was very nice. another one sold a few years ago on ebay, complete with delware booster pins, a pennant and programs - the buyer, a knowledgeable helmet collector, promptly relisted it as a michigan gamer, alas.
Originally Posted by Gridiron Heroes
Originally Posted by yosef777
very likely jw sported more than one helmet with the colts, in fact the photo i posted is not conclusive in terms of that helmet being painted on the exterior or impregnated white, could be the lighting, but it sure looks like something is going on. lots of other photos can be found of jw sporting his kelley that is obviously a clearshell, with the front and back manufacturing decals visible below the glass. as far as the jw colts kelley that sold at auction, i believe it was a salesman sample, not an authentic jw colts gamer, the side colts logos were very funky. however the one featured at helmet hut looks like a slam dunk.
Originally Posted by cyclonenation
robert
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03-30-2012, 11:48 AM #103
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Re: Show off your clear shell helmets
These are Joe Washington helmets that were at auction a few years ago. The Colts is a gamer (cracked shell) but the Falcons could be a salesman sample as I have seen a few other MaxPro Falcons samples floating around.
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03-30-2012, 11:22 PM #104
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Re: Show off your clear shell helmets
neither helmet is a joe washington gamer imo although they were listed and sold as such, and both originated from the same collector iirc. i believe they are simply reasonable facsimilies that a collector had jw sign, and from there they became "gamers".
in fact i don't think jw sported a kelley with decals/striping under the shell as a pro, not with san diego nor with baltimore, until he landed with the redskins. did this have something to do with kelley not having nfl licensing rights to decal the helmets at their factory, something that changed when maxpro purchased kelley in 1980 or so? who knows. iirc the cowboys decaled their marietta's, i.e. decals on the exterior, until maxpro took over and applied the decals and striping under the shell.
anyway that jw colts "gamer" that you posted, that sold at ami, doesn't really pass the sniff test imo - the horseshoe logo is not consistent with what the colts or jw sported on his kelley, the striping and logo are under the shell, and didn't jw sport a nose snubber throughout his career? as i mentioned earlier, imo the jw colt's helmet featured at helmet is what you would like to see in an authentic jw colts gamer:
and as you know jw also sported a riddell in 78 and 79, albeit very, very rarely - may have been his practice helmet that he donned during a game or two:
speaking of jw, did you see the jw falcons "gamer" currently listed on ebay? it sold last month at mears' for $290 and came with a mears letter of authentication - as far as i can tell mears deemed it an authentic jw gamer because jw played for the falcons in 1985, the helmet was manufactured in 1985, and the helmet had the number 24 written on the inside as well as exterior decals indicating number 24. of course a guy named poole played for the falcons and also wore 24 in 1987 - why did mears believe it didn't belong to him? moreover, i wonder what made mears believe jw sported a riddell wd1 when with the falcons, any photo evidence? anyway, the guy who won it for $290 has listed it on ebay for a buy-it-now price of $1,300...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-Joe-Was...6#ht_500wt_715robert
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03-31-2012, 08:44 AM #105
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Re: Show off your clear shell helmets
Robert,
That sounds about right for the JW helmets from American Memorabilia auction being 'transformed' into gamers via signatures : )
I also agree, JW always had the snubber on his Colts helmets (although the photo of the Colts on HH is missing?!?) and I have never seen any evidence of JW's Colts or Chargers helmets having the logos/decals/stripes under the shell (it seems like both the Colts and Chargers were clearshells with logo/decals/stripes on top).
As far as the NFL licensing for decals and Kelley I am not sure that was the case as the Cowboys, Lions and Falcons all had players wearing decals under the shell on their Kelley helmets before the MaxPro merger. I am thinking it was more a combination of convenience, laziness and nonchalance in the marketing of the era that resulted in the logos/decals/stripes on the Colts and Chargers helmets to go on top of the shells. Also, although the Cowboys did have the decals on top of their early clearshell Mariettas (Staubach wore one in Super Bowl X) not all of them did. I included a photo of the Staubach Marietta from the auction with the logos/decals/stripes under the shell. BTW, the Eagles Mariettas had the wings under the shell too.
Finally, I did see the Mears Falcons/Riddell 'gamer' as well and was questioning its authenticity myself but as you mentioned JW wore a Riddell on a few occasions (half way thru the Colts/Dolphins famous MNF game he switched to the Riddell) so I wasn't positive.
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03-31-2012, 08:28 PM #106
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Re: Show off your clear shell helmets
Hey aeneas01, nice Cardinals helmet! Where did you get it if you don't mind me asking?
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04-05-2012, 11:25 AM #107
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Re: Show off your clear shell helmets
Braylon Edwasrds 2010 game worn helmet
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06-03-2012, 03:17 PM #108
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07-14-2012, 05:13 PM #109
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Re: Show off your clear shell helmets
Wanted to post something in a more positive note in relation to Penn State football and thought I would post some photos of a reproduction Curt Warner MaxPro Kineomatic 21 with leather interior I recently completed. Thanks to Curtis at HH, and forum members Ray, Princip, Aeneas01, John in KY and Shipp 96 for their help on the project.
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09-29-2012, 04:00 PM #110
Re: Show off your clear shell helmets
Here is my Oklahoma Sooner Kelley Helmet. Does anyone know if this is the proper facemask for the helmet and era?