tire kickers

[Shipp_96]

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I have one auction currently that is driving me insane. I am selling some GU items for essentially more GU items, so I am not desperate to sell. I had a nice selling run a month ago from real collectors wanting my items, was able to buy some more items and all were happy! But now I am dealing with obvious flippers.

So, I have these vultures, consistently writing me about lowering the price. Problem is, I have it written in the description "Please do not ask me to reduce this price any further, as you are already getting a phenomenal deal. You are saving $130 off what I paid, etc...". Well, to no avail! I get three emails daily, "how much lower can you go?"

I question are they j@ck@ss' just messing with me, or really that dumb? The worst part is I had a collector, exchanged 5-8 emails, and he basically would not budge over $15 difference. What ticked me off is I already came down $50, and asked that he just understand I could not take anymore off, but nope. I never heard from him again. At this point, honestly, it is becoming such a circus I am about to keep it and put it away until maybe Christmas, when maybe I could get closer to what it's worth.

[ferro39]

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not really tire kicker related, but i have a couple of other funny ebay stories.

i listed a bunch of old non-game worn jerseys last night. literally 2 minutes after one goes up i get a message asking if i will take $5 more than my opening bid and shipping as a BIN. for $5, ill take my chances. you're not doing me any favors

i also got another message overnight asking if i would consider lowering my price and and setting up a BIN for them....mind you with 6 days and 22 hours left in the auction!!!

amazing how some people can walk with the size of the cojones between their legs

[momen55]

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i think it's time to call out these tirekickers because all they do is waste our time. IF YOU WANT SOMETHING, BUY IT!

[Preston]

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Just had ANOTHER tire kicker contact me...go through emails back and forth, agree TO a price and I said I'd send pics tonight when I got home from work and they give me the old "I have to pass, but if you have it down the road, I may be interested" line.

Am I wrong for telling the person that I may or may not deal w/ them when the time comes? It's frustrating but I know ALL of us have been there.

[Preston]

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i think it's time to call out these tirekickers because all they do is waste our time. IF YOU WANT SOMETHING, BUY IT!

I'm ALL for this if others are, too.

[Mulligans]

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Happens to me at least once a week and unfortunately they are all on this Forum!

No matter how frustrating it is to me.....I would never want to insult someone publicly over this....Some folks just stroll through life a little differently??

[kellsox]

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Unfortunately it's gotten to the point that I would rather put an item up on eBay than in the classifieds here. For every 5 people that request pics or ask questions, I'm lucky to hear back from 1 person. It doesn't take long for a " thanks but I'll pass " email... I've been meaning to post on this for a while- but for this and other reasons I've become less and less interested in the hobby.

[Titans74]

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i think it's time to call out these tirekickers because all they do is waste our time. IF YOU WANT SOMETHING, BUY IT!

This is rather pretentious. I ask about many items, I buy a select few. It is up to me whether or not I like the details/info given about an item that I am interested in and whether or not I choose to buy it.

I do see some (especially here on GUU) see you collect a player, offer you an item and automatically expect you to buy it. And get rather aggravated/insulted when you politely decline their item. That and they expect you take their word on the presumed game use of the item. God forbid you ask for provenance. Quite assinine behavior and expectations imho.

[lakeerie92]

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This is rather pretentious. I ask about many items, I buy a select few. It is up to me whether or not I like the details/info given about an item that I am interested in and whether or not I choose to buy it.

I do see some (especially here on GUU) see you collect a player, offer you an item and automatically expect you to buy it. And get rather aggravated/insulted when you politely decline their item. That and they expect you take their word on the presumed game use of the item. God forbid you ask for provenance. Quite assinine behavior and expectations imho.

It is one thing to be selective with what you purchase and ask questions and such. It is a different story when you email the person saying " I will take it," then start asking questions on it. If you want to ask questions go ahead, but don't commit to it before you are sure because there are others emailing about the item.

There is one forum member I ignore because I regularly get asked for more information on items I sell and not only have they never bought a thing, but never even reply back.

I give a small window to forum members before I go to eBay. I would rather give it to a member if they want it, but I have been told through the forum that I had an item that was only worth xx amount of dollars only to list it on eBay for over double that price.

[Titans74]

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It is one thing to be selective with what you purchase and ask questions and such. It is a different story when you email the person saying " I will take it," then start asking questions on it. If you want to ask questions go ahead, but don't commit to it before you are sure because there are others emailing about the item.

There is one forum member I ignore because I regularly get asked for more information on items I sell and not only have they never bought a thing, but never even reply back.

I give a small window to forum members before I go to eBay. I would rather give it to a member if they want it, but I have been told through the forum that I had an item that was only worth xx amount of dollars only to list it on eBay for over double that price.

Most definitely. If a person says "I'll take it". Then doesn't ever respond back or pay for the item, then they are unreliable and a liar.

It was my understanding that we were talking about people who might contact a seller asking details on a particular item. Maybe they ask for pictures. Then, in the end, after absorbing details/pics they decide they do not want that particular item. Said seller now is pissed, for a lack if a better word, hecause he feels slighted by "wasting" his time for a potential buyer who decided not to buy or as it was phrased her a "tirekicker".

Sellers who become angry over this are who I called assinine. Not every interested party ends up buying. And not every person who passes on a item is a dead beat. It's business. It's life. Accept it and move on.

[AutographAddiction]

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Maybe the "Items Wanted" section of this website could be changed to "Tire-Kickers". Is it me or has any member of this site ever had any success answering a thread in the "Items Wanted" section?

Just a thought - hope I didn't offend anyone.

Jim

I see where you're coming from. I may be guilty of this occasionally.

I'm a team collector, rather than strictly a player collector(for the most part), and I love UNC(basketball, baseball, football, and alumni from each), Carolina Panthers, Atlanta Braves, Charlotte Bobcats, and numerous NBA "stars". So I collect a wide variety of players and items.

Most of the time, I do not have a specific thing I am looking for, and sometimes not even a player in mind, I'm just looking for some cool items from my favorite teams and finding these items is easiest with a broad listing in the "Items Wanted" section.

But, I'm a student, and although I manage my money very well and am able to purchase some high-end stuff, I have a pretty strict budget. I feel like the only time I "tire-kick" is when I'm on a strict budget and am pursuing many items at once. I wish I could buy everything I see from the teams mentioned above, but I obviously can't afford that. So when I am in negotiations with numerous sellers on numerous items, but I can only afford one or two of them, I find myself inevitably unintentionally "tire-kicking" in order to make my decision on which item to buy.

That's just my rambled additions to the conversation. I've also been on the sellers end, and can understand how incredibly aggravating it can be after sending 10 high-red photos, 10-15 emails over a few weeks, and all of that jazz.

I think it's good to be conscientious of this issue as a buyer but to be understanding as a seller.

I know this thread will continue to remind me to take the sellers thoughts into consideration, and I hope others will be reminded as well.

[godwulf]

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I recently responded to someone's "Items Wanted" post, and it resulted in a sale, without problems.

As far as posting there, myself - I am hesitant to do so, honestly, because on those couple of occasions when I did it in the past, items were offered to me without a stated price, and when I asked what the prospective Seller wanted for them, I got "Make me an offer"...and when I responded with something along the lines of, "It's yours, I don't know what you want for it" (not wanting to either give an insultingly low offer or potentially offer three times what the Seller had in mind) they either repeated the "Make me an offer" line, or stopped talking to me.

Am I wrong to think that, in most circumstances, the Seller should be the one to drop the first number into the conversation? As a Buyer, I don't mind a little haggling, but I just believe that it saves a lot of time and possible hard feelings if the guy who owns the thing makes the first move in that process.

[gingi79]

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I recently responded to someone's "Items Wanted" post, and it resulted in a sale, without problems.

As far as posting there, myself - I am hesitant to do so, honestly, because on those couple of occasions when I did it in the past, items were offered to me without a stated price, and when I asked what the prospective Seller wanted for them, I got "Make me an offer"...and when I responded with something along the lines of, "It's yours, I don't know what you want for it" (not wanting to either give an insultingly low offer or potentially offer three times what the Seller had in mind) they either repeated the "Make me an offer" line, or stopped talking to me.

Am I wrong to think that, in most circumstances, the Seller should be the one to drop the first number into the conversation? As a Buyer, I don't mind a little haggling, but I just believe that it saves a lot of time and possible hard feelings if the guy who owns the thing makes the first move in that process.

I HATE that. People think you are the golden goose because they have an item from the player you collect. Courtesy is dying in this hobby and everyone is out to make every cent they can on people. In fact, had I not found the "Ignore User" button to block certain undesirably rude and self serving members, I would have simply left this site a few months ago. By blocking them, now all I see are the remaining quality members and GUU is fun again.

The downside of having a PC site is that now, people have come out of the woodwork with armbands, cleats, helmets, jockstraps, used gum, snot, whatever they can find used by my 2 players and expect me to not only beg them to buy it but pay through the nose. The other side is some collectors will NOT sell to me because they feel I have "enough items" or are mad that I wouldn't overpay for their item in the past and now won't even reply to my emails or allow me to send a Best Offer on eBay.