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    Re: 6 charged with fraud

    There are probably a few people they missed too.

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    Re: 6 charged with fraud

    - The bottom line here is that no matter how much we go back and forth on this (positive or negative) this has ultimately left ANOTHER black eye on the hobby that we all love and hold dear....and that my friends, is the saddest part of this whole thing....

    - This hobby HAS TO be built on trust, and when that trust is repeatedly broken it makes it tough for all of us...

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    Re: 6 charged with fraud

    Now I've purchased 3 game worn jerseys from JO over time:

    1. Carlos Rogers 08 home jersey unwashed w/ lots of wear "photomatched" to the Steelers game in 2008 - I have since sold it but I really did like it. I just chose to put money toward another jersey or two.

    2. Terdell Sands 2005 Raiders away jersey - has some hit marks and wear on it...I've yet to try to photomatch it but maybe I will try. Seeing as he's a superstar, I'd like to think it's not one that was "altered" or "forged" in any way.

    3. Daunte Culpepper 2005 Vikings away "game used" jersey - NO wear AT ALL, was told BY Robert that it was "game used". I'm not even sure it's been washed - I mean it is issued which is STILL cool, but telling me it's game worn is fraud when in actuality it's issued.

    So 2 out of 3 jerseys I've bought are LIKELY "legit", and while they say "2 out of 3 ain't bad", the fact that one was misrepresented is scary because, let's play devil's advocate - what IF one out of every three jerseys they sold were FAKE? Whether it's one item or all of them that are "misrepresented", it's a problem because it was KNOWINGLY MISREPRESENTED.

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    Re: 6 charged with fraud

    ChrisCavallier,
    I asked you several questions in POST #334 and I never heard from you. I would like to see what you have to say to my questions.

    Also Chris there are several GUU moderators that have plenty of information about Jarrod and his shaddy deallings but their to affraid to comment on here because your a "FRIEND OF JARRODS"... They think if they will post you will get mad and ban them like anyone else. It' to bad you have this fear in these guys because I and everyone else should know the information that they do.

    Hope to hear back from you soon....

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    Re: 6 charged with fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by SkubeBats View Post
    Also Chris there are several GUU moderators that have plenty of information about Jarrod and his shaddy deallings but their to affraid to comment on here because your a "FRIEND OF JARRODS"... They think if they will post you will get mad and ban them like anyone else. It' to bad you have this fear in these guys because I and everyone else should know the information that they do.

    Hope to hear back from you soon....
    Please do share.

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    Re: 6 charged with fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by SkubeBats View Post
    ChrisCavallier,
    I asked you several questions in POST #334 and I never heard from you. I would like to see what you have to say to my questions.

    Also Chris there are several GUU moderators that have plenty of information about Jarrod and his shaddy deallings but their to affraid to comment on here because your a "FRIEND OF JARRODS"... They think if they will post you will get mad and ban them like anyone else. It' to bad you have this fear in these guys because I and everyone else should know the information that they do.

    Hope to hear back from you soon....
    Very interesting post, and very insulting to say the least. I have no idea what this information about "Jarrod and his shady dealings" is that you're referring to. I suppose I am not as privileged as yourself and the other moderators?
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    Re: 6 charged with fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by SkubeBats View Post

    Also Chris there are several GUU moderators that have plenty of information about Jarrod and his shaddy deallings but their to affraid to comment on here because your a "FRIEND OF JARRODS"... They think if they will post you will get mad and ban them like anyone else. It' to bad you have this fear in these guys because I and everyone else should know the information that they do.

    Hope to hear back from you soon....
    Sounds to me like if your not part of the "in crowd" you are left in the lurch.

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    Re: 6 charged with fraud

    I have been talking to one of the moderates and he tells me there's others that know stuff but wont post on here because Chris is friends with Jarrod. He won't let me post his name but I've asked him to stand up and tell what he knows but he won't post on here. Some of the questions I've asked on here were question he wanted answer to himself. I know nothing more then the rest of you. He just states there's more to this then we all know.

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    Re: 6 charged with fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by SkubeBats View Post
    He just states there's more to this then we all know.
    Of course there is more to this than we all know. Your implication that all of us know something and are afraid to post it is completely false and ridiculous.
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    Re: 6 charged with fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by SkubeBats View Post
    I have been talking to one of the moderates and he tells me there's others that know stuff but wont post on here because Chris is friends with Jarrod. He won't let me post his name but I've asked him to stand up and tell what he knows but he won't post on here. Some of the questions I've asked on here were question he wanted answer to himself. I know nothing more then the rest of you. He just states there's more to this then we all know.
    Jamie,

    Your comments are both reckless and baseless. If you, or your "friend", has any information that we are not privy to please post it now or stop the rediculous claims you are making. You also claimed "They think if they will post you will get mad and ban them like anyone else." No one has ever been banned for any reason other than the fact that they violated the forum rules. While the people who have been banned will obviously claim they did nothing wrong (imagine that), that is simply not the case.

    I give you my personal guarantee that nothing will happen to anyone who comes forward with substantiated information that we do not have. Please feel free to tell that to your "friend". In addition, I believe you are also irresponsible in trying to bring the other moderators into this situation. They are upstanding people who spend a great deal of their time trying to help other collectors by helping moderate this forum. If you want to make baseless claims, please direct them to me and we can have the discussion directly...on the forum here if you like.

    Lastly, please let me know how you have been wronged as well. As I said before, if anyone feels they were deliberately defrauded and have proof please feel free to post it here. So far I have seen sitautions where people had questions about items and apparently contacted JO and I am presuming those matters have been resolved. If there is some form of fraud (I don't see Suzanne's posts as deliberate fraud) than please feel free to post it now. As always, we will not ban someone for posting substantiated information. You can check our rules and see what constitutes a violation if you have any questions.

    I look forward to seeing your substantiated posts, either by you or your "friend".

    Sincerely,
    Chris
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