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    Re: Derek Jeter Jersey 8D Auction

    Joel,
    The mlb hologram says "Game Used" not "Game Issued". Mlb has a policy saying they have to see it be taken out of play to put "Game Used" and if not, it's labeled as "Game Issued". So if they didn't see it taken out of play on the 31st, then they would have labeled it differently.

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    Re: Derek Jeter Jersey 8D Auction

    Quote Originally Posted by yanks12025 View Post
    Joel,
    The mlb hologram says "Game Used" not "Game Issued". Mlb has a policy saying they have to see it be taken out of play to put "Game Used" and if not, it's labeled as "Game Issued". So if they didn't see it taken out of play on the 31st, then they would have labeled it differently.
    i believe "taken out of play" is in reference to baseballs taken out of play. who takes out a jersey in the middle of an inning?

    in my other example, how can the road jerseys be taken out of play during a home game?

    how is the hat or bat taken out of play when there is a photo of the player wearing the item in action?

    i am just not taking a very literal interpretation of the hologram date because there are so many flaws/exception to the MLB authentication system. but we take what is given and hopefully the system will improve.
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    Re: Derek Jeter Jersey 8D Auction

    joelsabi could be right on this one as far as it being the date it was authenticated. The jersey doesn't have to be game issued. They can tag it with the invisible marker and authenticate it at a later date. If that was done at a later game I have seen them put the later date on it. It makes things very confusing.

    It seems as if they Yankees authenticator does things differently than most.
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    Re: Derek Jeter Jersey 8D Auction

    Quote Originally Posted by lakeerie92 View Post
    joelsabi could be right on this one as far as it being the date it was authenticated. The jersey doesn't have to be game issued. They can tag it with the invisible marker and authenticate it at a later date. If that was done at a later game I have seen them put the later date on it. It makes things very confusing.

    It seems as if they Yankees authenticator does things differently than most.
    Russ -

    But WHEN is the invisible marker daub placed? As they leave the field of play? In the locker room?

    Unless they tag it AFTER seeing the item on the field of play and before it leaves their sight, it still leaves open the question of reliability.

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    Re: Derek Jeter Jersey 8D Auction

    Quote Originally Posted by xpress34 View Post
    Russ -

    But WHEN is the invisible marker daub placed? As they leave the field of play? In the locker room?

    Unless they tag it AFTER seeing the item on the field of play and before it leaves their sight, it still leaves open the question of reliability.

    - Smitty
    Smitty, point well taken.
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    Re: Derek Jeter Jersey 8D Auction

    Quote Originally Posted by yanks12025 View Post
    Joel,
    The mlb hologram says "Game Used" not "Game Issued". Mlb has a policy saying they have to see it be taken out of play to put "Game Used" and if not, it's labeled as "Game Issued". So if they didn't see it taken out of play on the 31st, then they would have labeled it differently.
    I 2nd this statement.

    In fact there is a thread here somewhere about this exact issue concerning jerseys and if memory serves, its states that per MLB Authentication policy, the authenticator must see the player take of the item as they leave the field to be tagged as Game Used otherwise it gets a Game Issued designation regardless of how much use it shows.

    This was brought up because someone was asking about having MLB change a description that stated Game Issued and the response from MLB was that if they didn't see it removed, it could not be tagged as Game USED and many people applauded MLB's strict adherence to their policies to eliminate any questions of impropriety.

 

 

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