Montero Traded from Yankees

[joelsabi]

As a Montero collector (which I'm not), I think you'd be upset as the Yankees "mystique" just left and with that some extra money invested. My question though, is Montero a contracted player with Steiner or just through the Yankees? And what's the financial impact on acquiring GU items now through the Mariners as opposed to Steiner if in fact that's how it'll become?

Steiners contract is with the Yankee organization, so now the Yankees have to give up Mike Pineda jerseys next year to Steiner. I like the trade as Russell Martin is still the catcher and there is still one other Yankee catcher prospect that is climbing up the minor league levels. Will miss Posada however.

Pitchers win championships.

[frikativ54]

Pitchers win championships.

Couldn't agree with you more. That's why I'm kind of sad about this trade, as someone who follows the M's.

-Frik

[Manram]

Good trade both ways. Yankees get a stud pitcher in Pineda, and the Mariners get some much needed offense. Made sense also considering the Yankees have Gary Sanchez coming up as a catcher, and the Mariners have Taijuan Walker and other prospect arms. Although all these prospects are 2-3 years away

[legaleagle92481]

Great trade for Yankees. They had no pitching besides CC. The offense is fine. Russell Martin is still young and an allstar level catcher. Romaine is a capable backup. The DH spot has to stay open to rotate in all the 30 plus guys in the lineup. Arod, Jeter, Cano, Granderson, Tex and Martin are unmatched outside maybe Texas. The offense is in great shape. Its best to sell high on prospects. The Mets had Fernando Martinez, uber prospect horded him for years, could have gotten high quality player (s) for him but held onto him and in the end he ended up waived and they lost him for nothing. The Angels had Brandon Wood who was supposed to be the next great power hitter, after years of shuffling between the majors and minors and showing an inability to hit major league pitching he is now out of the picture and likely headed back to the minors. At one time the Angels could have had anyone for Wood today they could get a bag of balls if they are lucky. Montero could have went the same way. Last year was a small sample size and the quality of play is watered down in September with the expanded rosters so putting stock in September stats is dangerous. Also he has struggled at times in the past. Pinada is a unique talent the kind that you can't normally get on the free agent market or the draft and rarely comes along on the trade market. I would take him over Gio Gonzalez, Trevor Cahill, Latos or any of the other pitchers who netted huge prospects this offseason. He will just get better and better and is only 23, the Yankees could have a top of the rotation starter for the next 15 years. Kuroda is at best a middle of the rotation guy getting up there in age. Burnett is terrible and Nova overachieved last year and is likely to regress alot next season. This move was necessary for the Yankees.

[legaleagle92481]

As far as game used values it kills Monteros. The Yankees have a rabid collector base of very well heeled people who pay big time for stuff from their team. The Ms don't have that. Pacific Rim collectors go crazy for Ichiro but that is because he is from Japan. Plus the team is so bad. He stuff today is worth half of what it was worth yesterday.

[5toolplayer]

Terrible move by the Yankees and let me give you my opinion why. Montero yes is work in progress behind the plate but he could be a All Star DH/C for the next 10+ years. The Yankees have aging vets who seem to run out of gas when the post season comes around. When is it ever going to be a good time to inject some youth into this old lineup? Montero was home grown and seemed ready to do big things for the yankees this year.

Russell Martin a AS catcher?? Come on. He had a great April and decent may and then he was below average the rest of the year and was TERRIBLE in the playoffs. He is great behind the plate but his offense is poop. Romine??? A decent backup and all this talk about Gary Sanchez?? He's at least 4 years away.

Pineda showed some promise at the beginning of the year but had a horrible 2nd half. Look at his home and away splits, not too good. Will he get better? Can he pitch in NY? Hopefully. But people really seem to be forgetting about the 2 big guns in AAA, Betances and Banuelos. Those guys should be ready to go mid season. I know you can never have too much pitching but.........


Carlos Pena?? We do NOT need another .210 hitter floating around the lineup.

I am and will continue to collect and follow Montero and I know him and his family and this move without a doubt will crush him but he needs to move on and do his thing with the M's.

One good things comes out of this....i'll be picking up all his stuff for dirt cheap prices all year long.

[frikativ54]

One good things comes out of this....i'll be picking up all his stuff for dirt cheap prices all year long.

Good luck with your collection. I'll let you know if I see anything here in Seattle.

[metsbats]

Yankees need pitching to win right now. Montero can develop with the Mariners for the next 5 years and if he turns into the superstar he was destined to be the Yankees will re-sign him as a free agent.

Excellent strategy.

[gorilla777]

Great, great trade by the Yankees and Cashman. It was a gutsy trade by both teams, giving up quality to get quality, which I like. New York has two top notch catchers on the way, superior by a large margin defensively. Montero, by all reports, did not show the work ethic to become a better catcher, had slow feet and that will not get better over time given the toll catching takes on most guys. Yes, his bat is strong but they did give him 60 plus comfortable, high margin of safety at bats. Safeco is one of the worst, if not the worst, fields for hitters, so his power numbers will drop. It is a park for pitching and defense. His GU stuff is going to drop significantly if you are looking at it as an investment piece too. Seattle got a great hitter that they desperately need, but NY got two hard throwing,(high K to BB ratio) high strike throwing, young pitchers under team control for 5 years, I believe. Good, young pitching is hard to develop and hard to get. The reaction of other AL executives definitely sided with the Yankees on this one and is usually a good barometer.
It is on the surface a good trade for both, to a degree, but it is a huge coup for the Yankees, especially in terms of need.

Ben