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12-08-2005, 08:37 PM #1
Am I Crazy???
Am I crazy, or is there something odd here?
In one of the major auction houses ending this week I had bids in on two items, also including maximum bids. Note: The pieces were both of the same player, from two different teams.
On the first item, let's call it "Gamer A" I was the
high bidder at $322 with a high bid at $690
On the second item, let's call it "Gamer B" I was the
high bidder at $220 with a maximum bid at $389
The following events took place yesterday
At 1:21:37 PM "Gamer A" was bid up to $389
At 1:21:52 PM "Gamer A" was bid up to $471
At 1:22:08 PM "Gamer A" was bid up to $570
At 1:22:23 PM "Gamer A" was bid up to my maximum of $690 But Not Over, leaving me as the high bidder
Seconds later
At 1:22:39 PM "Gamer B" was bid up to $266
At 1:22:42 PM "Gamer B" was bid up to $322
At 1:22:59 PM "Gamer B" was bid up to my maximum of $389 But Not Over, leaving me as the high bidder
As an experiment, I increased by maximum high bid on "Gamer B" to $835
Guess what happened today
At 3:38:20 PM "Gamer B" was bid up to $471
At 3:38:23 PM "Gamer B" was bid up to $570
At 3:38:26 PM "Gamer B" was bid up to $690
At 3:38:42 PM "Gamer B" was bid up to my maximum of $835 But Not Over, leaving me as the high bidder
There have been no additional bids on "Gamer A"
Now am I crazy, or does this seem very convenient that my bids keep going up to my max but not over? Granted both gamers are of the same player- so it is possible someone else out there is a fan of the player, wants these two items and put bids in on both. Because that is a possibility, and we're only talking about 3 instances of the item getting bid to my maximum, I have not included the name of the auction house because honestly I'm not sure if what I think might be happening is actually happening.
Can I get a reality check here?
Eric
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12-08-2005, 09:11 PM #2
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No You Are Not
Eric,
It's called shill bidding, and you should let us know what piece of garbage auction house is doing this.
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12-08-2005, 09:27 PM #3
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Re: Am I Crazy???
No Eric You Are Not Crazy!!
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12-08-2005, 10:29 PM #4
Re: Am I Crazy???
Eric,
Happened to me also on an auction ending tonight. I'm still the high bidder at my maximum bid. I was also doing it as a sort of experiment. We'll see........
Marcus Sevier
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12-08-2005, 10:33 PM #5
Re: Am I Crazy???
Marcus
Can you post details like I did above?
Anyone else out there have the same thing happen to them?
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12-09-2005, 12:02 AM #6
Re: Am I Crazy???
Initial bid of $666 at 11:38 12/8, with a maximum of $1020.
Bid challenged, raising my bid to $806 at 20:52.
Challenged again, raising my bid to $1100 at 20:58.
No further bids since maxing out my bid. Still winning as of this post.
This has been the rule, not the exception with at least two of the auction houses I deal with. I honestly cannot count the number of times this has happened over the years. At first, I felt like "cool, I barely won", but that got old after the tenth time of winning at the maximum bid. I can fairly say that with the two auction houses, I win items AT my maximum bid at least 90% of the time. Coincidence? I don't think so any more. Solutions? I don't know. It's very difficult to boycot certain places when they are selling one of the items you have been looking for for years.
I wish these people would either put a reserve on an item or just suck it up and take the loss instead of ***king us like this.
Marcus Sevier
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12-10-2005, 11:39 AM #7
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Re: Am I Crazy???
Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean that people aren't out to get you. I bid on and won items in both the AM and Grey Flannel auctions the past several days. I also bid and won several items in the Historic Auctions marathon. My experience was better. I posted maximum bids on three bats in the Historic Auction around 9:00 PM. When I checked the bids the next day only one had been raised and that was by $20. The other bids had not been raised, and I won the other two bats at $200 under my ceiling. I certainly can see that consignors would have a reason to drive up their own items and I understand the concerns of those who had to watch their bids being raised as the auction went on and on. In the AM auction I bid on and won two bats. Again I placed max bids one day before the end of the auction. There were no additional bids placed.
I was, however, surprised to see that they were going to charge me $45 to ship the bats by UPS. Maybe they will come by limo. Finally I won a multi-bat lot in the GF auction. I again placed my bid one day before the auction end won. No additional raises and at about one-third of my ceiling. As an aside I was quite surprised at the low prices that bats brought in these auctions. Even including the eye-popping premium they still brought less that some ebay auctions. Happy Holidays to all. Rex