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05-15-2012, 11:11 PM #1
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Re: Josh Hamilton's 2nd home run ball from 4 home run game on 5/8/2012
One last thing I forgot to mention. When I received the ball, I saw a huge dirt mark on the side panel. Much darker looking than from the initial pics I received.
I watched the at bat again and just before the home run, the O's catcher tried to pick off the runner at first and threw the ball into the dirt, then it skipped off the bag. I guess the pitcher or ump never asked to replace the ball.
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05-16-2012, 12:07 AM #2
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Re: Josh Hamilton's 2nd home run ball from 4 home run game on 5/8/2012
It's a great story!
As far as paper works and hi-res pictures from the "act of catching that HR baseball" - those are all good and so forth. But, there will be doubt!
(for having season ticket at Yankee stadium - field level outfield) I know more than enough fans and close friends who have HR baseball in their possession - Arod, Jeter, Cano, Posada and so forth. Most of them think they have valuable item on hand - to some extend, they do. But then again, it is all hearsay to everybody else.
it is a sad truth but that exactly what it is.
When are they going to put authenticator in the stand where potential HR baseballs will be landed? I know I would pay premium for those!
(And yes, I know the Tigers are the only team so far who are authenticating HR baseballs)
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05-16-2012, 12:24 AM #3
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Re: Josh Hamilton's 2nd home run ball from 4 home run game on 5/8/2012
I guess your right, but you could doubt the guy putting the holo on the ball didn't placed it on the right ball and pocketed the real ball. You can add doubt to most any game used items.
Here are a few cool Getty pics of the second home run. You can see the dirt stain and a blurry image of the Oriole logo on the ball.
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05-16-2012, 09:30 AM #4
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Re: Josh Hamilton's 2nd home run ball from 4 home run game on 5/8/2012
I know that authenticator can be lazy at times but adding "fraud" to the equation, now that is something I have not seen (two different items with the exact milestone).
$500 was more fair for the baseball - I paid $300 and $200 for a HR baseball from Arod (during his 600th chase) and Jeter, respectively.
Along with the HR baseball, I also have the ticket stub, security's affidavit as he witnessed as such, a hi-res video image from the celebration AND the sellers ARE my friends! I dont have any intention to sell these HR baseballs but when I have a chance to get them signed at a later date, that would be a cool story to tell.
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05-16-2012, 09:34 AM #5
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05-16-2012, 11:55 AM #6
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Re: Josh Hamilton's 2nd home run ball from 4 home run game on 5/8/2012
I just watched the HR on my MLB.TV subscription. The guy grabs the ball and throws one on the field. Are you nervous you were duped? It looks like some other guy hands him a ball to throw back.
Never seen a HR ball with a dirt smudge unless it landed in the bullpen. I did rewind to confirm the throw to 1st by the catcher but if Im negotiating sight unseen I would have been nervous.
If Hamilton hits no more HRs in the game the ball in my mind isn't worth much more than a $100 it 2.
Marino, you paid $200 for a Jeter HR ball and $300 for a ARod HR ball which sounds about right given the uncertainty on Authenticity.
I would have given $100 tops for the Hamilton at the time. Too much doubt until you can research. Now given the historically significant events, and Schuberts research, it looks solid.
Congrats Schubert1970
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05-16-2012, 12:23 PM #7
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Re: Josh Hamilton's 2nd home run ball from 4 home run game on 5/8/2012
Schubert1970, I am still amazed and love your photos and due diligence however I would have been nervous at the time about the huge dirt mark and a switcheroo. Were you nervous you were being duped by this guy? Consider most game used MLB Hologramed balls are balls in the dirt. Glad you got a copy of his ID with photo to go with the game film.
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05-16-2012, 01:07 PM #8
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Re: Josh Hamilton's 2nd home run ball from 4 home run game on 5/8/2012
I didn't really care about the dirt mark till I received the ball and watched the at bat again and saw what happened before the HR. Now it makes perfect sense.
As for him throwing a ball back at least from the video I can tell the ball he threw back had a bunch of writing on it. This was also verified by the usher as this guy seems to do this regularly. I guess he doesn't want the home crowd getting on his case if he keeps an opponent’s home run ball.
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05-16-2012, 01:39 PM #9
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Re: Josh Hamilton's 2nd home run ball from 4 home run game on 5/8/2012
Yup!
After the handshake agreement of the price and exchange of the baseball, I also draft up a quick "authenticity / affidavit" letter which included three signatures - the security for the area, the person who caught the HR ball and Me (the new owner of the ball).
If there were marking on the ball, we would have taken pictures of them but like most - it just look minor scruff up where the bat meet the baseball.
Now I am getting these letters draft in advance just in case a sale is happening.
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05-16-2012, 12:09 AM #10
Re: Josh Hamilton's 2nd home run ball from 4 home run game on 5/8/2012
Incredibe piece of history! Congrats. A collection centerpiece. I have one of only seven authenticated baseballs thrown by Randy Johnson for his 300th win which is a centerpiece of my collection!
Congrats again.Rob L
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