I'm guessing this has happened at some time: an item doctored to fit a photomatch. Has anyone ever heard of someone faking-say a bat-and passing it as the item photographed during a game?
Ever see item faked to match photo?
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Not to start a debate, but isn't that one of the things JO got in trouble for? (NOTE - the last purchase I had from JO is one of the centerpieces of my collection) -
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Not exactly. Now please don't start accusing me of sticking up for JO, but he got into trouble for selling jerseys that had fake "wear" to card companies.
I don't think the card companies bothered photomatching the jerseys, since they were just going to cut them into pieces anyway...they just cared that the jerseys had use, were game worn, and authentic (which they were neither of the above).
So he didn't really "reverse photo match" jerseys....BUT I have heard/known of sellers trying this stunt. It's pretty easy to catch though.Comment
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A few years ago, a well known forger in our hobby was accused of buying Jerseys off NFL Auctions then working up a good sweat while rolling around in his back yard??Comment
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Here's a thread from last year with a doctored M Vick jersey. It's not clear who placed the stains, but someone was trying to create a photo match.
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I've only been a GU collector for the past 12-14 months but what I've have seen on the forums and on the Bay is pretty disturbing. Right now I am attempting to learn the ins and outs of the hobby by keeping all of my purchases pretty reasonable. But the thought of dropping in the area of $5,000 for a Marino makes me very uncomfortable with all the shady characters out there. With mail fraud, reverse photomatching, altering photos, etc. it can be rather overwhelming to newbies. Have you guys become more comfortable with the hobby the longer you have been in it? Because it kinda seems like I worry more and more everytime I hear what some of these dealers are capable of!Comment
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I've only been a GU collector for the past 12-14 months but what I've have seen on the forums and on the Bay is pretty disturbing. Right now I am attempting to learn the ins and outs of the hobby by keeping all of my purchases pretty reasonable. But the thought of dropping in the area of $5,000 for a Marino makes me very uncomfortable with all the shady characters out there. With mail fraud, reverse photomatching, altering photos, etc. it can be rather overwhelming to newbies. Have you guys become more comfortable with the hobby the longer you have been in it? Because it kinda seems like I worry more and more everytime I hear what some of these dealers are capable of!Comment
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Les Zukor
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Collecting Jeff Bagwell Cleats, Jerseys, & Other Items
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I am strickly keeping my findings to NFL gamers...but I have seen people try and fabricate shoulder pad strap marks on the fronts of the jerseys, but once you have seen a real one, you know what it should look like.
Most people who tend to "doctor" jerseys don't look at the insides of the jerseys, where "wear" is very evident. You can look inside of a jersey and expect to find scuffing, piling, etc. in certain spots.
Repairs are something that you get used to seeing if you're familiar with a certain team, as I am with the Jets. It's easy to spot someone who has tried to fabricate a "team repair", when you compare it to pleny of legitmate samples.
Also there is definitely a different quality/impression that a real NFL hit mark leaves on a jersey, as opposed to people just banging whatever it might be on a jersey in order to leave a "hit mark".
I'm really not going to get too much into specifics, because there are always people looking at this site for the "good", and I'm sure there are some who are looking to perfect their fraudulent craft...and I'd hate to give them any info to help in their deception.Comment
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