PED's Baseball and Lance Armstrong

[schubert1970]

I think Lance Armstrong and Mark McGwire should create the cheaters tour and have Jeff Bagwell as the keynote speaker and Barry Bonds as the grand marshall.

Also, I can't wait to hear Pujol's or Jeter's excuse when they get caught.

How Ironic the only true clean player in baseball is the ex-drug addict Josh Hamilton.

[Jags Fan Dan]

Re: PED's Baseball and Lance Armstrong

While I agree cheating at any given sport is bad for the sport, the $500 million he raised for cancer research as an indirect result of his cheating is hard to argue with. There are bigger things than the sport of cycling.

[gorilla777]

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The inclusion of Jeter here in this sort of post is pretty weak.

[yanks12025]

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I'd say there's a bigger chance of Hamilton using then jeter.

[suave1477]

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I'd say there's a bigger chance of Hamilton using then jeter.

I would agree with this. I am a bit chocked you would throw Jeter into the mix as he has never shown any kind of power and has been proven of his athleticism defenesively in the field as compared to other better short stops. The only thing I can give you on this would be his consistentcy to hit the ball and you dont need a drug for that you just need good hand eye coordination of where to place the bat when the ball comes........ which to add to this as ironic as it sounds I hear on the Yankees radio the other day, that Jeter is one of the leading canddiates of most strikeouts of our era. So its almost like Jeter contacts the ball and gets a single or makes no contact at all. Go figure!!

As far as Hamilton I truly love to believe he is clean at this point, but lets be realistic with power numbers that he has put up and lets not forget about smashing the home run record during the derby, if anyone may get a glance what he does behind closed doors, would be him.

[suave1477]

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I meant to putt hat Jeter has proven defensively in the field not to be the best short stop

[schubert1970]

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I would agree with this. I am a bit chocked you would throw Jeter into the mix as he has never shown any kind of power and has been proven of his athleticism defenesively in the field as compared to other better short stops. The only thing I can give you on this would be his consistentcy to hit the ball and you dont need a drug for that you just need good hand eye coordination of where to place the bat when the ball comes........ which to add to this as ironic as it sounds I hear on the Yankees radio the other day, that Jeter is one of the leading canddiates of most strikeouts of our era. So its almost like Jeter contacts the ball and gets a single or makes no contact at all. Go figure!!

As far as Hamilton I truly love to believe he is clean at this point, but lets be realistic with power numbers that he has put up and lets not forget about smashing the home run record during the derby, if anyone may get a glance what he does behind closed doors, would be him.

I think the fact Josh has taken a drug tests for several years two or three times a week keeps him clean in my book. I don't know of another play who has been more scrutinized.

[schubert1970]

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I meant to putt hat Jeter has proven defensively in the field not to be the best short stop

Who else has ever had a career year at almost age 39? I can think of two right off the top of me head....Clemens and Bonds.

[gorilla777]

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I would recommend checking out the stats for these players in their late 30s and early 40s on baseball reference.com. There may be others, but thought of these initially.

George Brett
Hank Aaron
Paul Molitor
Mike Schmidt
Pete Rose
Tony Gwynn
Warren Spahn
Stan Musial

[gingi79]

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Who else has ever had a career year at almost age 39? I can think of two right off the top of me head....Clemens and Bonds.

See, this perfectly illustrates why Steroids and HGH have ruined the game for so many fans. No one is above reproach and every player now is considered a cheat by someone, somewhere.

I expect unsubstatiated whispers about Jose Bautista, Mike Trout, Chipper Jones, Mariano Rivera, Buster Posey, Stephen Strasburg, David Wright and Matt Holliday will come from "fans" and thoughtless blogging morons pretending to be Sportswriters (I'm looking at you, Skip Bayliss, you pompous blowhard)

[suave1477]

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Who else has ever had a career year at almost age 39? I can think of two right off the top of me head....Clemens and Bonds.

I reiterate you are talking about Power. Clemens and Bonds have both shown power going into later years.

Jeter has never shown any unexplained power or even speed for that matter.

He just has good hand - eye coordination.

If PED's somehow helps you see the ball and react better to it, then yes I would say you can throw Jeter into the bunch but until then I have only heard of the PED's help heal muscle mass quicker and providing more power. But then you may say the Greenies helped Rose??? lol

[flota89]

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I think Lance Armstrong and Mark McGwire should create the cheaters tour and have Jeff Bagwell as the keynote speaker and Barry Bonds as the grand marshall.

Also, I can't wait to hear Pujol's or Jeter's excuse when they get caught.

How Ironic the only true clean player in baseball is the ex-drug addict Josh Hamilton.

So, Josh Hamilton is the only clean baseball player?

Cool story.

Sincerely,

The majority of mlb players

[Bondsgloves]

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I think the fact Josh has taken a drug tests for several years two or three times a week keeps him clean in my book. I don't know of another play who has been more scrutinized.

Lance Armstrong claims he was tested over 500 times.

I have been told by both scouts and players PED's help improve your eye sight as well.

A large % of players are still using, there is just to much money in the game. Just because there is testing the system is flawed, cyclist, football players, boxers, olympians are still using.

[frikativ54]

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I think Lance Armstrong and Mark McGwire should create the cheaters tour and have Jeff Bagwell as the keynote speaker and Barry Bonds as the grand marshall.

Also, I can't wait to hear Pujol's or Jeter's excuse when they get caught.

How Ironic the only true clean player in baseball is the ex-drug addict Josh Hamilton.

Jeff Bagwell has never failed a test for PEDs and was not named in the Mitchell Report. While Bagwell may well have used, let's stick to the facts here and not throw Pujols and Jeter's names into the mix until we have conclusive proof.

[schubert1970]

Re: PED's Baseball and Lance Armstrong

I would recommend checking out the stats for these players in their late 30s and early 40s on baseball reference.com. There may be others, but thought of these initially.

George Brett
Hank Aaron
Paul Molitor
Mike Schmidt
Pete Rose
Tony Gwynn
Warren Spahn
Stan Musial

George Brett - Age 38 .255 Age 39 .285 Age 40 .266

Hank Aaron - Age 39 he had a great year, not a career year. Age 38, 40, 41 he batted .234 to .265

Paul Molitor - He did have a career year at ages 37 and 39

Mike Schmidt - Age 38 & 39 batted .242 and .203

Pete Rose from age 39 to 45 Pete had one good year, not what I would call a carrer yer.

Tony Gwynn - From age 38 - 41 had some great averages for his age, but not career years. Also, Tonly was on the doughnut diet.


San Musial - Aside from batting .330 at age 41 he batted .255-.275 from ages 38-42