(New Thread) Game Used Jerseys, Bats and more for sale!!

[tigerdale]

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I've had one dealing w/ suave1477(Jason) awhile back. It took over a month for me to get my item! Very few emails were answered by him. I finally had to get the moderators involved.

[suave1477]

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I'm confused at how you can say you are trustworthy, yet not even attempt to defend the basis of the negative feedbacks. Many buyer do not like to be jerked around and miss out on other auctions while their money is tied with you.

I thought the same thing as Ironman at first and questioned the validity of the post, but it is pretty unfortunate that you have such little care to the concerns. Your messages are coming across like, yeah...I screwed those people over, but it's your choice to deal with me or not.

It actually has everything to do with being judge and jury, for each buyer is their own judge and jury in deciding what to buy or not buy.

Finally, while I can only offer my observations from this post...one of the best part of this forum is collectors being able to warn others of jerseys and sellers that just don't seem right.

First of all attempt to defend??? I do not need to attempt to defend myself about a transaction/s that did not take place here on this forum. Not to say I wouldnt but some our in depth and im not going to sit here writing pages and pages worth of posts explaining each one.

This was the most contradictory statement you. I actually had to laugh at this one."Many buyer do not like to be jerked around and miss out on other auctions while their money is tied with you." - Then you shouldnt be buying items you cannot afford. I mean damn thats pretty plain and simple. Jerking people around??? Everyone here has received there items from me. So there getting there items regardless.

Warn of me? Thats another joke. I am not sure where you are even leading with that statement (Are we talking about stealing money?) I am one of thee longest members on this forum and most people here know me. After years and years of being a member here do you honestly think I am looking to swindle someone out of $50 or a $100.

You are so right I have waited years just to get my hands on someones $50.00 yes now I can runaway to Cuba and buy 7 Ferraris for each day of the week. Or maybe $50 worth of lottery tickets lmaooo

[kellsox]

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The attitude and brashness of the seller speaks volumes. But hey, I understand, he's only going to string out a transaction if its on his " bad" eBay. Acct.

[Neely8]

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Wow for someone who has that kind of feedback over such a short period of time your attitude is certainly quite arrogant. Maybe you ought to offer an explanation as to how all that occurred? Regardless of where those transactions occurred it is still a reflection on you and how you have conducted business. Instead of being to cocky about it maybe you should be a little more humble and admit that maybe you made a few mistakes. Just based on the feedback brought to light and your attitude concerning it I know I would not deal with you.

[jake33]

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Nice! It's about time. I haven't see a forum battle royale within the game used universe in a while.

I usually treat most topics in life like a court room, "You can say whatever you want as long as it is factual. I hold that in regard to even on a negative statemen about myself. Regardless of where ever the source of the information comes from, if it is factual, it should not be a taboo."

It is interesting behavior we have as people. We often avoid the truth of a statement, and will deflect as a self coping mechanism.

For example, if John Dillinger would tell me "You should never rob a bank." My reaction should not be, "What?! Well, look who is talking!" The correct response to that statment, should be "Yes, I should never rob a bank."

[jppopma]

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John...it all reminds me of on the job and the character witnesses that come out and say "S1 never hit me". Lots of flash and deflecting comments...where have we ever seen any of that before.

Jake...apparently you are not allowed to reference Dillinger because he never robbed you personally. So you have no say..haha.

Suave...the laughable comment has nothing to do with being able to afford a jersey. It's called budgeting. If I have $1,000 tied up with you on a shirt, I will likely be waiting for that shirt and not looking at other shirts that are out there.

Plus one of the longest members? Many of the big names that have fallen recently have been involved in the hobby for a long long time. Just because you have not been caught does not mean that the past does not exist...

[suave1477]

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Ok guys im replying from my cell phone so i cant give a long response so ill reply back a bit later.

To make it short and sweet. It has nothing to do with arrogance or cocky. But no im not going to sit here and be humble when everyone decides they want to attack me. To be honest I dont know too many people who are humble when being attacked by people after someone tries to call someone out with information because they have a chip on there shoulder.

Again I will finish later

[Neely8]

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Ok guys im replying from my cell phone so i cant give a long response so ill reply back a bit later.

To make it short and sweet. It has nothing to do with arrogance or cocky. But no im not going to sit here and be humble when everyone decides they want to attack me. To be honest I dont know too many people who are humble when being attacked by people after someone tries to call someone out with information because they have a chip on there shoulder.

Again I will finish later

You're not being attacked in my opinion. Regardless whether or not someone has an agenda with you the facts still remain. Negative factual information was presented concerning you. People are reacting to that information and are concerned in dealing with you as a result. You have made no attempts to explain what happened and how all that feedback resulted. Instead you display a cocky and arrogant attitude and expect that is going to sway people to want to deal with you? We all understand people do make mistakes and I think just a little humility would be in order here.

[TNTtoys]

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All,

This thread unfortunately has run its course. I will be locking it up shortly, but as suave has offered a long explanation, I will give him the opportunity to post that explanation first.

Nick

[suave1477]

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To clear the air by my own choice.

Some items that I sold through ebay were planned to be shipped in a normal time frame. Unfortunately I was called away on work (my 9 to 5) and they got held up. As soon as I returned back within days as I am sure everyone knows by now we were hit with Hurricaine Sandy. Which further delayed the shipping because nothing was open and when they were there was no means of transporation to get to them. Transportation was shut down in NYC for over a week. There was limited gas for almost 2 to 3 weeks. To add salt into the wound as I was not directly effected meaning my home, but my family's house was. They lost everything. All there furniture, clothing, car, etc.... to the point when they did move back in they are now sleeping on the floor!! They were just getting by financially until the storm hit. My priorities at that point was to help them. Not to ignore my original buyers, but to just help my family in some way get back on there feet. When I wasnt at work, I was at there house pumping water, throwing out mildew clothes, and furniture. I reached out to the buyers and tried to explain to them what the problems were. Some understood and some really didnt care. What actually bothered me the most was 2 of them with out even giving me a chance to reach out to them left negative feedback because other posted negative feedback. When I did speak with them I asked why would you leave negative feedback with out giving me a chance to speak with you. They said well because others did and they felt they werent going to get there items either!! So they automatically jumped the gun and left negative feedback. So I hope everyone is happy now hearing the tradgedy of my family. As mentioned I still fulfilled my end of the bargain with some of those who wanted there items and even though they left negative feedback I still sent there items out to them. Some just wanted a refund and they received there refund. No one got robbed and the ones who wanted there items got them.

As far as people here judging my character I think is a joke. let me explain why. All of you are quick to crucify the seller. What about the buyer??
Huge Example (I will not mention names) Someone on the forum who really really wanted an item for a couple of years kept posting want ads for an item. I happened to have it and really really didnt want to sell it. But I like the guy, and I know the Game Used item was of his favorite athlete. And I know what its like to want and item of your favorite athlete and cant find it or maybe another person has it and doesnt want to sell it. It Sucks!! So I said you know what this guy really wants I might as well as let him have it. So I reached out to him and said hey, I have the item do you want it he said YES. I sold it to him and again I was away woth work and got a little delayed to send it to him but I did send it a short time after. I did explain to him in emails what was going on, when I had the opportunity too.
Our last communication was the buyer told me "I hope we can still be friends"
We have not spoken since, because I am sure he has his life as well as I have mine.
Then he comes on here out of the blue in (this thread) and points out the situation we had.
First of all the past is the past!!! Second of all you have the nerve to say you hope we can still be friends and then turn around and try to call me out in this thread???? Thats a huge spit in the face especially after I sold something to the guy that he really wanted and that I really didnt want to sell. So lets talk about judging THE BUYERS character!!!

The thing I find funny is that people on here feel they are god and should be judge and jury yes it is laughable. Because honestly if someone else was called out on this forum and if they decide they want to explain themselves or not is there business. I am a grown adult and can make a choice on my own whether I want to deal with that person that was called out or not. But I am sure not going to start posting posts on here saying he is obligated to defend himself. What are we 12 year olds??? Well maybe some of us are because that seems to be the mind frame of this forum that if something is called into question they must immedaitely come here and EXPLAIN!! Um wroooong. Your an adult as well as I am, make yoru choice to do what you want. But I personally do not feel anyone is obligated to come here and have to beg forgivness!!

Some people take my remarks as being arrogant, harsh, cocky, none of them are true. I am just a rational realistic person and tired of the wash woman gossip.

One last example which proves my point further of members on here. I love the ones who said oh I was interested in some of your items but after seeing this thread I am leery of buying from you. Ok so what happened to the past 90 days or so those items have been listed and you never contacted me about them?? All of a sudden today you wanted them??? lol Give me a break. Its just people looking to stir the pot!!

Now this comment was not only repetitive but also laughable
Suave...the laughable comment has nothing to do with being able to afford a jersey. It's called budgeting. If I have $1,000 tied up with you on a shirt, I will likely be waiting for that shirt and not looking at other shirts that are out there.

Plus one of the longest members? Many of the big names that have fallen recently have been involved in the hobby for a long long time. Just because you have not been caught does not mean that the past does not exist...
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Firs of all you dont have a 1,000 tied up with me as I dont have any $1,000 items thats I am selling most are within a $50 to couple of hundred dollar range (but thats neither here nor there) But if you have a $1,000 tied up with me and I am sending you the item. Whats the difference if you want another shirt??? Either you can afford the other shirt or you cant, either way you wanted my item and decided to buy it. - So like I said this comment was rendundant


Just because I been a long time member and have not been caught?? This was another ridiculous comment on 2 levels. It would be pretty hard to be a long time member here and not get caught!! And last but not least CAUGHT WITH WHAT?????
Do you mean by being a slow shipper??? lmaooo Ok so if you want to label me being caught as a slow shipper, so be it!! lol If that makes you happy.

And many of the names that have fallen? Yeah for forging, faking items. I do not and can no one here say I have ever ever ever faked an item. So dont even go down that road!!

If the mods decide they want to lock up this thread that is there choice. I truely wish they would leave it open as this particular thread I think is educational on my character and would love to hear the responses good or bad. I will not slander anyones name!! I think the mods are doing a disservice to the game used collectors but locking this up. But again it is up to them.

[gorilla777]

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Just wanted an excuse to use this, that's all....

[suave1477]

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Just wanted an excuse to use this, that's all....

Now thats hysterical lol

[Neely8]

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Well thanks for offering an explanation as to what happened. I wasn't aware the time period in question was post-hurricane when everything was in chaos. I was also affected by Sandy and it took about 10 days for things to return to any semblance of normalcy for me.

[tigerdale]

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As far as people here judging my character I think is a joke. let me explain why. All of you are quick to crucify the seller. What about the buyer??
Huge Example (I will not mention names) Someone on the forum who really really wanted an item for a couple of years kept posting want ads for an item. I happened to have it and really really didnt want to sell it. But I like the guy, and I know the Game Used item was of his favorite athlete. And I know what its like to want and item of your favorite athlete and cant find it or maybe another person has it and doesnt want to sell it. It Sucks!! So I said you know what this guy really wants I might as well as let him have it. So I reached out to him and said hey, I have the item do you want it he said YES. I sold it to him and again I was away woth work and got a little delayed to send it to him but I did send it a short time after. I did explain to him in emails what was going on, when I had the opportunity too.
Our last communication was the buyer told me "I hope we can still be friends"
We have not spoken since, because I am sure he has his life as well as I have mine.
Then he comes on here out of the blue in (this thread) and points out the situation we had.
First of all the past is the past!!! Second of all you have the nerve to say you hope we can still be friends and then turn around and try to call me out in this thread???? Thats a huge spit in the face especially after I sold something to the guy that he really wanted and that I really didnt want to sell. So lets talk about judging THE BUYERS character!!!

I'm the buyer whose character is being judged....so let me reply. First, I can't give any facts on any of Jasons rebuttal to what has gone on in the rest of the thread except for the transaction I had w/ him. Anything more than my transaction w/ him would be purely opinion on my end. The hurricane was a horrible situation for so many & my heart goes out to anyone involved. I'm sure the ebay report brought in question, I would imagine no negatives were before the hurricane or no new listings after. I haven't checked & I'll take Jason on his word that's what happened. That being said, let me first say Jason, I hope all is well after the hurricane. You have been a long time member here & I have enjoyed many of your posts. As for our transaction, you stated "Someone on the forum who really really wanted an item for a couple of years kept posting want ads for an item. I happened to have it and really really didn't want to sell it. But I like the guy, and I know the Game Used item was of his favorite athlete. And I know what its like to want and item of your favorite athlete and cant find it or maybe another person has it and doesn't want to sell it. It Sucks!! So I said you know what this guy really wants I might as well as let him have it. So I reached out to him and said hey, I have the item do you want it he said YES. " Well, the email I got was the same email a half dozen other members got about an Ivan Rodriguez bat for sale, you offered it to multiple people. Next you state this "I sold it to him and again I was away woth work and got a little delayed to send it to him but I did send it a short time after. I did explain to him in emails what was going on, when I had the opportunity too." Well, if your sending it a short time after is over a month, then yes, you are correct. If explaining to me in emails what was going on means "I've been tied up w/ a lot of things" , "personal issues" and "it was shipped all ready " (when it wasn't), then yes, I guess you did explain to me what was going on. Finally you say "Our last communication was the buyer told me "I hope we can still be friends" We have not spoken since, because I am sure he has his life as well as I have mine." Yes, 100% my last email I said "I hope we can still be friends". That's my way of offering a handshake & hoping we can put everything behind us. But that email, like many of mine sent to you, was never answered. My last email from you had this to remember you by "I received an email from a mod on the forum that your complaining to them about me. I am not surr what you feel by going to them is going to accomplish??? I am a grown man as i thought you were. Do you feel one of the moderators is my father??? " So once again, the facts of our transaction was I replied to an email you had sent to me as well as others, I paid, after a month of no bat & very few emails answered, I contacted a moderator. I then finally received the bat. So if you want to call my character into question, I have nothing to hide. If getting a hold of a moderator after a month was out of line, Jason, I apologize. If posting my experience w/ our transaction was out of line , I apologize. I am more than happy if you want to call my character into question...heck, start a thread about it, because if I did anyone wrong, I'd want to make it right, at the very least apologize. I'm sure we all may upset some people w/out even knowing it. So yes, if theres anyone out there whose had bad dealings w/ me, as a buyer or seller, please let me know, on this thread or start a new one. Our character & reputation mean a lot, not just in this hobby but everyday life. I'm not out to make enemy's. I honestly think a lot of people just wanted you to say you took some of the blame or responsibility in some of those dealings. Maybe its the grandfather in me, but saying I'm sorry goes a long ways. So once again Jason, if I did something you felt out of line, I'm sorry. So ever after all this Jason, I'll still ask if you want to be friends, put this behind us. If so, I need to hear it from you too. I enjoy this hobby to much to hold a grudge or to knowingly upset someone else. I guess its back to you now.

[suave1477]

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I think TigerDale you called your own character into question on this one, as I did not mention names nor did you mention I emailed you directly and you chose to reply here and air out your dirty laundry which further adds to my point. You could of easily just responded to me directly but instead you chose you want to get attention and make a point in front of everyone else.

This all gets a bit childish and boring.

If you would like to further continue this conversation you can email me directly or further prove my point, by discussing here.