Hack Wilson Bat on Panini Card

[Eric]

Saw someone post this on twitter. Does anyone know what the bat was graded by MEARS?
https://twitter.com/BradZiegler/stat...057729/photo/1

Eric

[arminter1989]

I saw that post on twitter. It's crazy that Brad Ziegler would pull that card. It's kinda sad seeing such a nice artifact chopped up but that's another conversation.

[Masimen]

Ohh, thats a bummer!

[yanks12025]

I quickly looked on mears site, and its not listed under Hack Wilson backs when you do a search. Would be easier if we could figure out all the numbers.

[dietdew]

it kind of looks like 312_91 and the missing number is round at the top narrowing it to a 2,3,6,8, or 9

[yanks12025]

I looked and found nothing, so emailed Troy asking about it. But it doesn't even look like a knob.

[GoTigers]

Does the card say anywhere that the bat was game used by Hack? All it says on the front of the card, is that it's an "authentic knob"... and even that is incorrect, It's obviously a barrel end.

I think the only reason a card company would advertise a knob, and provide a barrel end, is because there were markings on the knob that showed this bat was obviously not used by Hack.. Either inch marks, or other makers marks.

If I'm reading this correctly Troy provided a list of all authenticated game used, Hack bats. So, I'm putting my money on this being a batrite with the patent marks on the knob, or a spalidng with the trademark on the knob which recieved an "authentic" grade from Mears, or some index bat.

[GoTigers]

These card companies are making big bucks by chopping up index and pro issued bats. Then they hide behind small print, and mislead their customers. "Game Used Hack Wilson Bat" could simply mean a bat with Hack Wilson on the barrel, was used in a game by some player. That's much different than, "Bat Used by Hack Wilson".

That's why I think the debate about cutting up artifacts is overrated. The card companies are cutting up $500 index bats, not $8000 game used bats. They are in the game to make money, so they'll spend as little as possible on "artifacts" and leave it up to the lawyers for the description.

Don't get me wrong, I know there have been some great pieces destroyed by these companies, but I think its the exeption rather than the rule. If they were cutting up "GU 10" bats, then they would advertize the fact, and provide images beforehand. This would assure the customer base that they were getting a part of history.

[yanks12025]

These card companies are making big bucks by chopping up index and pro issued bats. Then they hide behind small print, and mislead their customers. "Game Used Hack Wilson Bat" could simply mean a bat with Hack Wilson on the barrel, was used in a game by some player. That's much different than, "Bat Used by Hack Wilson".

That's why I think the debate about cutting up artifacts is overrated. The card companies are cutting up $500 index bats, not $8000 game used bats. They are in the game to make money, so they'll spend as little as possible on "artifacts" and leave it up to the lawyers for the description.

Don't get me wrong, I know there have been some great pieces destroyed by these companies, but I think its the exeption rather than the rule. If they were cutting up "GU 10" bats, then they would advertize the fact, and provide images beforehand. This would assure the customer base that they were getting a part of history.

Jimmy.
The Cobb that was chopped up was a professional model spalding which sell for $10,000++

[Eric]

You can just look up the serial numbers on the Willie Kamm and Shoeless Joe Jackson bats. Oh wait...