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  • metsbats
    Moderator
    • Nov 2005
    • 3840

    Ken can you help ? Jefferies jersey

    Hi Ken,



    Is this a scoreboard or real gamer?

    Thanks
    David
    metsbats86@aol.com

    Always looking for 1973,1986,1988,1999,2000,2006 game used Mets post season and Bobby M. Jones and Ed Hearn NY Mets game used bats.
  • KGoldin
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 1672

    #2
    Re: Ken can you help ? Jefferies jersey

    I went to link
    Shows jersey removed

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    • metsbats
      Moderator
      • Nov 2005
      • 3840

      #3
      Re: Ken can you help ? Jefferies jersey

      Corrected the link here.


      Thanks
      David

      metsbats86@aol.com

      Always looking for 1973,1986,1988,1999,2000,2006 game used Mets post season and Bobby M. Jones and Ed Hearn NY Mets game used bats.

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      • KGoldin
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 1672

        #4
        Re: Ken can you help ? Jefferies jersey

        I do not believe that is a SB jersey. In fact, I spoke to my signing agent at the time just now, and unless someone has an ad where Sb advertised Jeffferies jerseys, I do not believe there were any tagged jerseys signed by him, furthermore it was a trademark of SB to have them signed in the front. So a back signed , tagged jersey would not be from SB

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        • metsbats
          Moderator
          • Nov 2005
          • 3840

          #5
          Re: Ken can you help ? Jefferies jersey

          Thanks Ken. I 'm pretty sure the SB jersey were tagged which is why we typically are cautious with the 1990 Jefferies jerseys. However like you say the signatures were typically on the front and not on the numbers which makes sense.

          Here is another one:

          metsbats86@aol.com

          Always looking for 1973,1986,1988,1999,2000,2006 game used Mets post season and Bobby M. Jones and Ed Hearn NY Mets game used bats.

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          • KGoldin
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2012
            • 1672

            #6
            Re: Ken can you help ? Jefferies jersey

            Now I need to call up his old agent Sam levinson and ask him if he remembers the jefferies deal!

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            • commando
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2007
              • 1234

              #7
              Re: Ken can you help ? Jefferies jersey

              TNTtoys gives a great explanation on this short thread:



              A few other Jefferies Scoreboard threads exist here on the forum. If I remember correctly, these jerseys were not signed by Jefferies for Scoreboard. Apparently Jefferies has signed several of them here and there over the years though, hence no uniformity to the location of the sigs or the type of pens used.
              sigpic
              Anthony Nunez
              Historian, USFL Houston Gamblers
              www.Houston-Gamblers.com

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              • KGoldin
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2012
                • 1672

                #8
                Re: Ken can you help ? Jefferies jersey

                Does anyone have an old ad showing jefferies jerseys for sale by score board?
                I do not recall them .
                If you have an ad , please post it. Also, if you have ever seen jefferies signed items with a sb cert, please post.
                Otherwise, myself, my former lead signing agent, and the former warehouse manager of SB all do not recall ever sitting with him in a signing session and I do not recall signing a contract with him.
                I will wait for a response before I post further, as I have some idea on these jerseys but want to confirm my thoughts..
                Please post any ads or any SB certs with Gregg jefferies

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                • TNTtoys
                  Moderator
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 2618

                  #9
                  Re: Ken can you help ? Jefferies jersey

                  Scoreboard Jefferies jerseys were not signed on the front. They were all Set 1 1990 homes in the same size, with the "9" patch. To be honest, the odds that you will find a legitimate gamer in the bunch is so slim that I would stay away from them at all costs. The fact that this one is signed on the back number is irrelevant; any jersey can be signed after the fact.
                  Looking for ...
                  Any Game Used Mets jerseys from 1986 and 1987
                  Any Keith Hernandez, Ron Darling, Lee Mazzilli and John Olerud Mets items
                  Email me at TNT_Toys@yahoo.com

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                  • KGoldin
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 1672

                    #10
                    Re: Ken can you help ? Jefferies jersey

                    Originally posted by TNTtoys
                    Scoreboard Jefferies jerseys were not signed on the front. They were all Set 1 1990 homes in the same size, with the "9" patch. To be honest, the odds that you will find a legitimate gamer in the bunch is so slim that I would stay away from them at all costs. The fact that this one is signed on the back number is irrelevant; any jersey can be signed after the fact.
                    I repeat
                    I and everyone I know who worked with players at score board cannot recall having Gregg jefferies under contract
                    Wit his in mind, there is always the slightest chance everyone's memory is bad
                    So I ask, I know there have been postings here before showing old score board ads from the early 90 s selling jerseys. If anyone has those images, please post one showing jefferies in the ad.
                    Otherwise, I think these jerseys came out of either ACES or MC sports back in 1990

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                    • TNTtoys
                      Moderator
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 2618

                      #11
                      Re: Ken can you help ? Jefferies jersey

                      Originally posted by KGoldin
                      I know there have been postings here before showing old score board ads from the early 90 s selling jerseys. If anyone has those images, please post one showing jefferies in the ad.
                      Otherwise, I think these jerseys came out of either ACES or MC sports back in 1990
                      Anthony Nunez posted a ton of images on this forum from old ads. There was no reference of a Jefferies jersey in any of them; however, the same threads were littered with examples of Jefferies Set 1 1990 homes that were on ebay and various auction houses. I have come across dozens of them myself.

                      You introduce the premise that another company had a similar deal with Rawlings that Scoreboard did, whereas game model jerseys were duplicated in every detail, down to the team tagging. Sure, this is plausible. If they could mass produce for Scoreboard, they certainly could do the same for another company.

                      So, I suppose the original point I was looking to make without splitting hairs is that buyers should AVOID any 1990 Set 1 home Gregg Jefferies jerseys, as they were mass produced for promotional purposes, and it is an extreme longshot that the true gamer can be found in the pile.
                      Looking for ...
                      Any Game Used Mets jerseys from 1986 and 1987
                      Any Keith Hernandez, Ron Darling, Lee Mazzilli and John Olerud Mets items
                      Email me at TNT_Toys@yahoo.com

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                      • KGoldin
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 1672

                        #12
                        Re: Ken can you help ? Jefferies jersey

                        I would stay away from that jersey
                        ACES represented him, and MC sports did a lot of marketing. It is possible they could have had Jefferies sign a letter and gotten his jersey

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                        • AthleticsFan
                          Member
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 94

                          #13
                          Re: Ken can you help ? Jefferies jersey

                          I swear I remember seeing Gregg Jefferies on QVC when he was still with the Mets. I'm pretty sure I have a Jefferies signed baseball and a signed Big Stick bat from SB too.

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                          • Phil316
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2013
                            • 1878

                            #14
                            Re: Ken can you help ? Jefferies jersey

                            Cool article by Dave Miedema regarding ScoreBoard jerseys.

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                            • KGoldin
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 1672

                              #15
                              Re: Ken can you help ? Jefferies jersey

                              NOPE
                              those Jefferies jerseys were NOT from SB
                              if you can find a better source then the former CEO of SB, LMK
                              SB never ordered or sold Jefferies jerseys. SB was only able to order jerseys if we produced a letter to rawlings from the player requesting the jerseys. I am sure Sb was not the ONLY company or individual of that era to be able to do it.
                              and I can 1000% guarantee Jefferies was never on QVC Carter, Gooden and straw yeah, but not jefferies

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