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    Baseball HOF 2014

    It looks like a good number of guys should make it from this group, at least eventually.

    I hate the voting protocol and all that nonsense, especially this sort of report:
    This writer, Ken Gurnick, has a pretty ridiculous angle-
    http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/stor...ck-morris-vote

    Maddux, Thomas, Glavine and Biggio seem most likely to me...but I could make cases for about 6-7 other players eligible - Piazza, Raines, etc.
    Either you are a Hall of Famer or you are not, just vote 'em in.

    Wondered what everyone thinks on the subject?

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    Re: Baseball HOF 2014

    Also, to note on the writer Gurnick's stance, the careers of Jack Morris and Greg Maddux overlapped a total of 9 seasons. That makes it hard to say they are from completely different eras....

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    I think that's a waste of a vote based on his opinion and it should be taken away from him. I also think people that vote ridiculously, such as voting Molina 10th or leaving him off all together, for MVP....they should have their votes taken away too. Maybe some of the voting for these awards should come from players/coaches. And yes I know HOF and season awards are different animals.

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    Re: Baseball HOF 2014

    Piazza and bagwell will both get in, although maybe not this year

    This year I think biggio MIGHT get left out
    Locks are Maddox and Thomas. Close to lock but not definite is glavine. Biggio should get in this season but weirder things have happened.

    Piazza greatest hitting catcher ever, and you. Cant believe every rumour you hear, and even if you do , I am of the " so what" school

    I hope one day bonds and Clemens get in. They were both hall of famers all throughout career, not just some freak pop due to use.

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    Everybody has to be let in, plain and simple. If Biggio or Piazza tried juicing for a few weeks one offseason but didn't like it and quit, are they as guilty as Clemens and Bonds? Where do you draw the line?
    Everybody needs to get in, including the Crime Dog who's one of the real victims here.

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    Re: Baseball HOF 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Nnunnari View Post
    Everybody has to be let in, plain and simple. If Biggio or Piazza tried juicing for a few weeks one offseason but didn't like it and quit, are they as guilty as Clemens and Bonds? Where do you draw the line?
    Everybody needs to get in, including the Crime Dog who's one of the real victims here.
    Agree on all points

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    Re: Baseball HOF 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by gorilla777 View Post
    It looks like a good number of guys should make it from this group, at least eventually.

    I hate the voting protocol and all that nonsense, especially this sort of report:
    This writer, Ken Gurnick, has a pretty ridiculous angle-
    http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/stor...ck-morris-vote

    Maddux, Thomas, Glavine and Biggio seem most likely to me...but I could make cases for about 6-7 other players eligible - Piazza, Raines, etc.
    Either you are a Hall of Famer or you are not, just vote 'em in.

    Wondered what everyone thinks on the subject?
    Although not proven, wasn't Piiazza mentioned as using PEDS?
    Regards, Tony

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    Re: Baseball HOF 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by 3arod13 View Post
    Although not proven, wasn't Piiazza mentioned as using PEDS?
    http://www.baseballssteroidera.com/b...-baseball.html
    Regards, Tony

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    Re: Baseball HOF 2014

    A great group! Torre had a Braves' connection. He was one of the first Atlanta Braves. I recall that in 1967 Bob Uecker, who was backup catcher behind Torre, said he was Phil Niekro's special catcher because he was more expendable than Torre. (I think Uecker's the one who said that the way to catch a Niekro knuckler was to wait until it stopped rolling and pick it up; or maybe that was said by another knuckler catcher).

    Torre also managed the Braves to their second-ever division title in 1982, when the Braves set the MLB record with 13 straight wins to start a season. Torre also gained a division title with the Dodgers after the Yankees gave him a vote of little confidence. My wife got his autograph on the same ball with Lasorda in spring training.

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    Re: Baseball HOF 2014

    I'd agree on Glavine, Maddux and Biggio. Probably Big Hurt as well, although I think he'll take a few years possibly. Edgar Martinez I never really liked for one reason or another, but he was on the West Coast and I rarely saw him play. I grew up going to Reds games and saw Maddux and Glavine more times than I'd like to remember.

    In the mid 90's I was in my teens and had seats right where the pitchers warmed up on the visitors side at Riverfront Stadium. I somewhat heckled Maddux because he was wearing glasses and made some dumb comment asking him if he was going to turn into Superman when he took the glasses off. Sure enough... he did. I think he gave up one run and dominated. When he came off the field he was a few feet away from me and winked... That was the first and last time I tried being a smart ass to a visiting pitcher.

 

 

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