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It is a unique auto from Frank. It is very early in his career and being that tagging on the hat checks out I believe the auto is legit too. This was Franks first year and this hat would have been his first black,White Sox hat and his first #35 hat. I think this is a legit Thomas piece. A 1/1. Good thread of info everyone. Thanks.
I will make a deal with you. Send it in to PSA/DNA for authentication of the signature. If it comes back real (which it will not), I will pay the authentication fee.
Thanks for the offer. I probably will take it to the March show and let you know. But I wouldn't take money from a senior member. I will definitely let you know. The hat belonged to a team employee and had it personally signed in 90, then BPH purchased it many years ago. Kim from BPH said he has had the hat in his possession for a very long time and actually forgot about it until recently so there has only been 2 owners. All the tagging on the hat is correct for the era.
I will make a deal with you. Send it in to PSA/DNA for authentication of the signature. If it comes back real (which it will not), I will pay the authentication fee.
Why not let the guy enjoy his hat without all the doom and gloom?
Why didn't you just message him about the auto if you are so concerned instead of raining on his parade in the thread.
Thanks Roady. No worries.. I like to hear both sides of this thread so I can judge for myself. members always have ideas or links that help me better learn the hobby. I've been a collector for 30 years and learn new things everyday. I am excited about this hat and I will display it well in my collection. There are always two sides to autograph collecting and even PSA gets it wrong sometimes. Thanks
Thanks Roady. No worries.. I like to hear both sides of this thread so I can judge for myself. members always have ideas or links that help me better learn the hobby. I've been a collector for 30 years and learn new things everyday. I am excited about this hat and I will display it well in my collection. There are always two sides to autograph collecting and even PSA gets it wrong sometimes. Thanks
I shouldn't have butted in when you can take care of yourself.
Sorry TwinLakesPark for my tone.
One of the very few things i dislike about this site is the overwhelming negativity, especially since I am an optimist and the glass is always half full. I can see how I just participated in that and I just threw up in my mouth.
With that said, I grew up in Sarasota, FL, the former spring training home of the White Sox and single A affiliate, Sarasota White Sox. I watched Frank come through the single A team on his way up, and then got to watch him in Spring Training every year until 95. I was a kid then and was at the park every day, through work outs and games.
What is really sad is that so many adults during that time (who had clubhouse access) tried to scam a group of us kids that hung around the clubhouse and fields, in which we were always getting bats from the players. I can't count how many times guys would come out of the clubhouse with a hand full of singed balls (by FT) and would try to trade us for the bats we had gotten that day. All of them were fake. It was happening so much that we got really good at picking out which ones were fake. Frank even came out to us one day after an extended work out and asked to see some of the fake balls, which then got security involved who then revoked the clubhouse credentials of the guys who were doing it.
When I saw that autograph, specifically the sharpness of the "3", sharpness of the "5", the peak of the "F", and the cross line that he makes between the F and T, it triggered some flash backs that got me really fired up.
Sorry to rain on the parade, I just called it how I saw it.
No problem Twinlakespark. I always appreciate other members views and comments. If I wasn't interested I wouldn't post. Your concerns and advise are well taken. I take all the comments into consideration and I learn more and more with each thread and post. I enjoy GUU for that exact reason. Thank you for taking time and giving your opinion. Go Sox.
I just found a 2011 MEARS auction where a 1990 sox game worn Thomas helmet was sold and in the helmet is the 35 written the same as in my hat. And both are 7 1/8.
Frank Thomas will be at the March Show in Chicago. I have his H.S. Yearbook, maybe I will pay to have him sign the yearbook then show him the hat and see what he says.
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