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  1. #11
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    Re: How Many Set 1 Jerseys Do Teams Make? 3 2006 Set 1 Pedro Martinez Jerseys Up Right Now.

    The 2nd jersey comes from Kruk Cards and they are a legit seller on Ebay. He is selling it as game issued, possible game used so I don't think he is trying to fool anyone. That said the jerseys tagging looks to crisp to ever have been used before so my guess is it is team issued.

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    Re: How Many Set 1 Jerseys Do Teams Make? 3 2006 Set 1 Pedro Martinez Jerseys Up Right Now.

    No. Not a consignor of anything in Goldin auction, but I do like Pedro. But I'd prefer a Red Sox gamer of him. Didn't realize the Kruk one had a Mets coa. I'm just saying out of the 3 listed I'd prefer the Goldin one because it has a team coa and Goldin has checked it out on top of that. I think we have to be careful throwing out blanket statements that ALL Pedro's have the extra arm pit thing. Just going thru pictures on Gettys, it doesn't look like they ALL do. It's hard to tell but I'd say that some on them do not. Just my 2 cents.

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    Re: How Many Set 1 Jerseys Do Teams Make? 3 2006 Set 1 Pedro Martinez Jerseys Up Right Now.

    Quote Originally Posted by teddy406 View Post
    No. Not a consignor of anything in Goldin auction, but I do like Pedro. But I'd prefer a Red Sox gamer of him. Didn't realize the Kruk one had a Mets coa. I'm just saying out of the 3 listed I'd prefer the Goldin one because it has a team coa and Goldin has checked it out on top of that. I think we have to be careful throwing out blanket statements that ALL Pedro's have the extra arm pit thing. Just going thru pictures on Gettys, it doesn't look like they ALL do. It's hard to tell but I'd say that some on them do not. Just my 2 cents.
    I see and I agree to a certain point. Thing is you have a veteran collector who specializes in a certain team.

    I trust when he says

    I would look for the following:

    1. Steiner Letter with matching hologram sticker on the jersey.
    2. Mesh inserts under the arms (Game ready Pedro jerseys had this feature, as 2 forum members already mentioned).

    Without these features, I would stay away.
    All 3 of those jerseys have none of that. In my opinion that is a red flag. If you are gonna spend your hard earned money on something you want it to be a sure thing.

    I respect your opinion too by the way, I just think if you are looking for a top notch Pedro gamer you might wanna wait until one pops up with those markers mentioned above by TNT.

    I would also much prefer a Red Sox gamer

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    Re: How Many Set 1 Jerseys Do Teams Make? 3 2006 Set 1 Pedro Martinez Jerseys Up Right Now.

    Here is an example of a 2006 home jersey with Steiner paperwork. It will give you another idea of the extra fabric and Steiner tagging.
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    Re: How Many Set 1 Jerseys Do Teams Make? 3 2006 Set 1 Pedro Martinez Jerseys Up Right Now.

    Here is the tagging.
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    Re: How Many Set 1 Jerseys Do Teams Make? 3 2006 Set 1 Pedro Martinez Jerseys Up Right Now.

    The pedro jersey has been pulled.
    Regardless of a team letter, and proper tagging (which is has both) I don't want to be selling it if so many Mets collectors have an issue with it.

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    Re: How Many Set 1 Jerseys Do Teams Make? 3 2006 Set 1 Pedro Martinez Jerseys Up Right Now.

    Quote Originally Posted by KGoldin View Post
    The pedro jersey has been pulled.
    Regardless of a team letter, and proper tagging (which is has both) I don't want to be selling it if so many Mets collectors have an issue with it.
    +1 for Ken.

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    Re: How Many Set 1 Jerseys Do Teams Make? 3 2006 Set 1 Pedro Martinez Jerseys Up Right Now.

    Guys,

    Please don't read too deeply into the team letter. The Mets deliberately do not state "GAME USED" on these letters when they don't know the history behind the jersey.

    As at least one of you alluded to this, I just the ebay auction to see the Kruk jersey but I do not see the team letter there. I can definitely say with confidence that the Mets are the source of the jersey, as Kruk has done several bulk buys from them.

    What I take from a team letter is provenance. You establish the history of the jersey. If the letter comes from the Mets, you know that it is a true jersey that was manufactured for the club. BUT unless it actually states "GAME USED," you cannot make that assumption. Everything sourced from the club (especially team issued jerseys and extras) can have a team letter.

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