It's a darn shame: Part 327

[otismalibu]

My personal opinion is that jersey cards are where many suspect jerseys end up. I just emailed UD about this and they told me they don't have any photographic records of the jerseys they cut up. Handy.

Just trust them. It's all good.

[Eric]

I think it would be important to know where they buy their jerseys from. If they got them straight from the team that would be one thing, but we know they rely on auction houses as well.

UD depends on trusted sellers when buying autographs. I wonder who donruss leaf's trusted sellers are for football and baseball.

Does anyone know how to find out this information?
Eric

[jon_8_us]

I belonged to a couple prominent card collecting/trading sites and trust me it's mostly adults not 12 year olds that collect these cards.I'm glad to say that i am a FORMER card collector.Anyone who collects current cards is aiding and abetting these companys to purchase and destroy these pieces of history.I just read an article about a Jim Thorpe and Doak Walker jersey being cut up for cards......absolutely disgusting....
jon

[JasonM33]

I've got an idea! Let's cut the United States Constitution into little tiny pieces and put them into a card. That would make a great collectable. DERP!

Did anyone see the expose a few years ago where they showed a bunch of NFL rookies puting on a bunch of shoes and and jerseys for like 2 seconds each so the card company could cut them up and call them "event worn". What a joke. I don't remember which company it was. I bet half of that stuff is phony.

[sylbry]

[quote=JasonM33;29082]I've got an idea! Let's cut the United States Constitution into little tiny pieces and put them into a card. That would make a great collectable. DERP! quote]

Funny you should say that. I got into a heated discussion a year ago or so when this topic was brought up on the Vintage Baseball Card Forum. I used the Constitution example too.

The other person's point was basically jersey cards benefit more people because more people will be able to own a piece of history versus one person locking it up in their collection.

[JasonM33]

With all due respect to that person that's nonsense. You can't convince me that cutting somthing into a hundred little pieces isn't destroying it.

[stkmtimo]

[quote=sylbry;29091]

I've got an idea! Let's cut the United States Constitution into little tiny pieces and put them into a card. That would make a great collectable. DERP! quote]

Funny you should say that. I got into a heated discussion a year ago or so when this topic was brought up on the Vintage Baseball Card Forum. I used the Constitution example too.

The other person's point was basically jersey cards benefit more people because more people will be able to own a piece of history versus one person locking it up in their collection.

I used to believe that argument, too, but most people want the cards not for their historical value but for their monetary value.

Tim

[JasonM33]

Exactly!

[Eric]

I think it would be important to know where they buy their jerseys from. If they got them straight from the team that would be one thing, but we know they rely on auction houses as well.

UD depends on trusted sellers when buying autographs. I wonder who donruss leaf's trusted sellers are for football and baseball.

Does anyone know how to find out this information?
Eric

I heard from a hobby member today with knowledge of the situation with card companies and game used products. Here's how he put it

"Card companies are allowed only to buy baseball jerseys from dealers approved by Major League Baseball.

Of course they can still purchase from players and teams.

Current basketball jerseys are only allowed to be purchased from the teams. Teams are not allowed to profit from this. Teams sell the jerseys to the card companies at the prices that Reebok charges them to replace the jerseys, I believe $150 or so a jersey. NBA does not want to market game used jerseys.

Football, I do not know who they buy from. I assume they buy from any of their regular dealers and auction houses. "

[sylbry]

I can't remember if I had posted this in the past. There was a short lived thread on the PSA message boards (soon after deleted) about a guy who took the jersey swatch out of a card after the card was accidentally damaged. I believe the card was of Torii Hunter but on the backside of the jersey swatch was a sticker that said Manny Ramirez. Pictures of the card and jersey swatch with sticker were posted. I believe the card was made by Donruss/Playoff.

It could have been a rare mistake, who knows. But it does make you wonder 1) is the jersey authentic and 2) is it really from said player.