Someone's Holy Grail: Early to Mid 1960s Minnesota Vikings Helmet

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  • commando
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    • Nov 2007
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    Someone's Holy Grail: Early to Mid 1960s Minnesota Vikings Helmet

    This thing is incredible.... A beautiful RK2 from the early to mid 1960s, possibly worn by legendary center Mick Tingelhoff.

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    Anthony Nunez
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  • bgakladd
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 470

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    Re: Someone's Holy Grail: Early to Mid 1960s Minnesota Vikings Helmet

    Wow...it sold for $5299.00!

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    • commando
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2007
      • 1234

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      Yeah, it may be a while before you see another one of those. The seller had absolutely no idea what she had found... Just goes to show that "lost" items do indeed surface from time to time.
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      • miracleonice80
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 216

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        Re: Someone's Holy Grail: Early to Mid 1960s Minnesota Vikings Helmet

        Guys.....great post! I was the one honored to get the Tingelhoff Vikings helmet....it is great. I owe a lot of people a thank you for helping me with the Vikings collecting.....this was one of my grail items.....gotta get a mask and jaw pads now......it is awesome.

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        • bgakladd
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2007
          • 470

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          Re: Someone's Holy Grail: Early to Mid 1960s Minnesota Vikings Helmet

          Originally posted by miracleonice80
          Guys.....great post! I was the one honored to get the Tingelhoff Vikings helmet....it is great. I owe a lot of people a thank you for helping me with the Vikings collecting.....this was one of my grail items.....gotta get a mask and jaw pads now......it is awesome.
          At first I thought the helmet might of had the dunguard facemask similar to Tinglehoff wearing in the pic shown, but after seeing the view of the front of the helmet it might be more like the facemask shown in the signed photo because of the facemask clip outlines from wear.
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          • commando
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            • Nov 2007
            • 1234

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            Re: Someone's Holy Grail: Early to Mid 1960s Minnesota Vikings Helmet

            Originally posted by miracleonice80
            Guys.....great post! I was the one honored to get the Tingelhoff Vikings helmet....it is great. I owe a lot of people a thank you for helping me with the Vikings collecting.....this was one of my grail items.....gotta get a mask and jaw pads now......it is awesome.
            Congrats to you. What a cornerstone to any collection! And bgakladd's photos are very helpful. I'm not sure of the spacing of those two holes, but I think it might be possible that BOTH facemasks were used during the life of this helmet.
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            • commando
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              • Nov 2007
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              Re: Someone's Holy Grail: Early to Mid 1960s Minnesota Vikings Helmet

              Originally posted by miracleonice80
              Guys.....great post! I was the one honored to get the Tingelhoff Vikings helmet....it is great. I owe a lot of people a thank you for helping me with the Vikings collecting.....this was one of my grail items.....gotta get a mask and jaw pads now......it is awesome.
              Oh, I forgot to mention... Contact Helmet Hut to get the world class treatment this rare gem deserves!
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              • miracleonice80
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2011
                • 216

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                Re: Someone's Holy Grail: Early to Mid 1960s Minnesota Vikings Helmet

                Hey, guys.....yeah, it is fun to research this stuff.....my helmet is obviously an RK version.....so you can eliminate the TK '70's versions....and dungards. If this helmet goes back to 1964-65, I think a butterfly/clip mask first was on it.....then maybe a clip only mask in 1966ish may have been put on.....looks like he wore a TK in '68, an RK in '69 and then back to TK in '70. The date code inside the helmet must have rubbed off......cant find it. Still some mystery surrounding this one......Tony

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                • bgakladd
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 470

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                  Re: Someone's Holy Grail: Early to Mid 1960s Minnesota Vikings Helmet

                  Originally posted by miracleonice80
                  Hey, guys.....yeah, it is fun to research this stuff.....my helmet is obviously an RK version.....so you can eliminate the TK '70's versions....and dungards. If this helmet goes back to 1964-65, I think a butterfly/clip mask first was on it.....then maybe a clip only mask in 1966ish may have been put on.....looks like he wore a TK in '68, an RK in '69 and then back to TK in '70. The date code inside the helmet must have rubbed off......cant find it. Still some mystery surrounding this one......Tony
                  Here is a pic with what looks like a butterfly clip mask. And it's a completely different style.
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                  • bgakladd
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                    • Dec 2007
                    • 470

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                    Re: Someone's Holy Grail: Early to Mid 1960s Minnesota Vikings Helmet

                    Originally posted by bgakladd
                    Here is a pic with what looks like a butterfly clip mask. And it's a completely different style.
                    Here is a better pic of the butterfly face mask, with wide spacing.
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                    • miracleonice80
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 216

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                      Re: Someone's Holy Grail: Early to Mid 1960s Minnesota Vikings Helmet

                      Great pic.....Im now thinking that maybe this helmet made it to the '69 season....he wore a RK that season......I just gotta see if he wore a husky or regular RK that year......I think this helmet was around in '64-'65.....then, reconditioned for late 60's.....He didnt wear an RK from 1970 and on.....or, at least I am 99.9% sure he didnt......Tony

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                      • bgakladd
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 470

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                        Re: Someone's Holy Grail: Early to Mid 1960s Minnesota Vikings Helmet

                        Originally posted by miracleonice80
                        Hey, guys.....yeah, it is fun to research this stuff.....my helmet is obviously an RK version.....so you can eliminate the TK '70's versions....and dungards. If this helmet goes back to 1964-65, I think a butterfly/clip mask first was on it.....then maybe a clip only mask in 1966ish may have been put on.....looks like he wore a TK in '68, an RK in '69 and then back to TK in '70. The date code inside the helmet must have rubbed off......cant find it. Still some mystery surrounding this one......Tony
                        I am taking a stab at the year on this one since there is no date you can find but look at the back of the helmet. It had the cursive ELL in Riddell logo imprinted into the shell on the bottom left side. It looks like it was repainted at one time with lacquer paint and then the newer italic type font put on top the old Riddell logo if it was reconditioned. What year did they switch the font?? 1967? If it was, then I'm guessing a 1966 helmet, like you mentioned. If so that would explain the font change on back and the facemask clip impression and outline rubbing into the paint along with the aging outline. Is the Riddell font on top stamped in or a stencil type?
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                        • bgakladd
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                          • Dec 2007
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                          Originally posted by miracleonice80
                          Great pic.....Im now thinking that maybe this helmet made it to the '69 season....he wore a RK that season......I just gotta see if he wore a husky or regular RK that year......I think this helmet was around in '64-'65.....then, reconditioned for late 60's.....He didnt wear an RK from 1970 and on.....or, at least I am 99.9% sure he didn't......Tony
                          Here is his 1969 Pro Bowl RK helmet that was sold by MEARSONLINE auction. The number identifier inside is close to yours. Look at the heavy use of the suspension webbing compared to yours. This definitely was a multiple season game worn helmet. Shows the outline of old Vikings decal. Was this one his 1969 helmet??? Need to find out when yours was last used from the time it was repainted till it was taken from use because of the crack on the side. If yours isn't his 1969, looking at 1966-68 years for final use on yours???
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                          • miracleonice80
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                            • Feb 2011
                            • 216

                            #14
                            Re: Someone's Holy Grail: Early to Mid 1960s Minnesota Vikings Helmet

                            Ok....great points.....this is gonna be fun. Gotta put the pieces together....let's try and get the facts that we know for sure, no matter how obvious.

                            1. Gray interior/RK shell is 1960's
                            2. He did not wear an RK shell in the 1970's
                            3. Has clip marks on front to say that a mask other than a butterfly/clip was used(in addition to the butterfly clip)
                            4. Has the red tape identifier #53
                            5. Same tape wrap pattern on the suspension system as the Mears helmet
                            6. The "newer" Riddell stamping on back of helmet has been seen as early as 1969 on films.....(1969 Vikings highlights on #84 Henderson helmet)
                            7. Films/pics that I have seen from 1968 have him wearing an NJOP clip on mask with a TK shell
                            8. 1969 season has him wearing an RK shell with a NJOP mask clip on.....
                            9. 1965/1966 films/pics has him wearing an NOP mask(the pic with him and the Browns' #13 Ryan is from May 1966 with NOP mask with butterfly clip)
                            10. 1966 also looks like he wears an NJOP mask with butterfly clip
                            11. Minimal wear on the suspension webbing says maybe he used for a season or less before it cracked? Taking the clip marks into consideration, of course.....
                            Gotta figure out when the newer Riddell font came to be.....67? 68? 69?
                            We can eliminate the 70's at least....this helmet was worn in the 1960's. back to research......lol. Thanks for chiming in, fellas.....Tony

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                            • commando
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 1234

                              #15
                              Re: Someone's Holy Grail: Early to Mid 1960s Minnesota Vikings Helmet

                              I'm not an expert on vintage helmets, but it would seem like the suspension could easily be replaced if needed during the off-season yearly servicing. So the suspension was most likely used by Tingelhoff for a while, but not necessarily the entire life of the helmet.

                              On a side note, those RK2 models were workhorses.... But a crack on a facemask hole - like yours - was usually the kiss of death that took these gems out of service. And of course it was that very crack that allowed someone to take this lid home as a souvenir! (But the Vikes likely kept the facemask if it was still serviceable.)
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