Authenticity Opinions on this Jeter ball

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  • jojac
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2014
    • 110

    #16
    Re: Authenticity Opinions on this Jeter ball

    I'm not an expert on Jeter but that signature looks good to me. The thing that gets me is the part Steiners plays in Jeter items. If anyone met Jeter on the street and was able to obtain his signature they would have a tough time selling that item in the future because it would be considered questionable because it didn't have the Steiner sticker. I know you need to be careful in purchasing an item without proper authentication but Steiners brought it to a new level with Jeter. I guess in a way you should take your hats off to them for what they've accomplished with Jeter but as fans and collectors its caused some frustration. They have you in some sense to a point where if you want to feel comfortable with obtaining his signature then just send it in with a check for $600 and they'll do the rest otherwise you'll find yourself here asking if its OK.

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    • sportsnbikes
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2012
      • 1133

      #17
      Re: Authenticity Opinions on this Jeter ball

      Originally posted by Griffey24fan
      99% of the time regardless of what the autograph looks like there are characteristics that are present in authentic examples. I am sure if you posted some examples of those 50 with fakes people could tell you real/fake and do quite well.
      I don't agree.

      Case in point is this Jeter. Half say it's good half say it's not. Plus if that were the case, then one would think that the 3PA's would be able to do a better job at authenticating signatures that are real. I have NEVER had a signature pass authentication even though they were all obtained by me in person. That is why I don't trust them and no longer use them.

      The bottom line is that no one ever truly knows unless they see it in person...barring a blatant bad forgery.

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      • BaseballNutz
        Banned
        • Dec 2014
        • 13

        #18
        Re: Authenticity Opinions on this Jeter ball

        I'm a bit late to the game but that Jeter is absolutely positively 100% real and there is no question in my mind. It possesses all of the "trademark" Jeter characteristics of his signature.

        Dave

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        • Griffey24fan
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2010
          • 151

          #19
          Re: Authenticity Opinions on this Jeter ball

          What are you submitting that is not passing. It is well known within the hobby that big names get rejected often unless you submit through a large sub or they feel like being generous. I have had IP stuff fail I have seen fake stuff pass.

          They won't be perfect and nobody can be unless you only keep what you get IP.

          To anyone believing this to be real, I would be interested in your examples either IP Steiner etc. that compare well with this.

          Personally it looks like the numerous fakes that bombarded eBay during his retirement season.

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          • johnsontravis@ymail.com
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2013
            • 479

            #20
            Re: Authenticity Opinions on this Jeter ball

            I wouldn't be very comfortable buying that baseball. It could be real or it could easily be fake. To anyone saying it is surely fake I want you to go to the link below and tell me if you saw that ball without any authentication if you would call it legit? Derek Jeter is extremely inconsistent because of his scribble filled signature.

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            • Skizzick
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 287

              #21
              Re: Authenticity Opinions on this Jeter ball

              A lot of you have confidence in a ball featuring one of the most forged signatures in the hobby that you didn't see Jeter sign in person. You say it's 100% real? Wow, you guys must have ESP or something.

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              • 3arod13
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2006
                • 3092

                #22
                Re: Authenticity Opinions on this Jeter ball

                Originally posted by Skizzick
                A lot of you have confidence in a ball featuring one of the most forged signatures in the hobby that you didn't see Jeter sign in person. You say it's 100% real? Wow, you guys must have ESP or something.
                Opinion was asked, and my response was "signature is solid," and that was just my opinion. I can say that the signature is a really nice Jeter signature, and I don't see any flaws in it whatsoever! So if it is fake, the person who signed it is really good!
                Regards, Tony

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                • Skizzick
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 287

                  #23
                  Re: Authenticity Opinions on this Jeter ball

                  Originally posted by 3arod13
                  Opinion was asked, and my response was "signature is solid," and that was just my opinion. I can say that the signature is a really nice Jeter signature, and I don't see any flaws in it whatsoever! So if it is fake, the person who signed it is really good!
                  I wasn't pointing out your opinion specifically, but saying somethings is "definitely real" or "100%" on any item is an exaggeration, especally when not seeing it in person. Even PSA/DNA, JSA, etc. only say something is "likely authentic" without witnessing the signing of the item themselves.

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                  • 3arod13
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 3092

                    #24
                    Re: Authenticity Opinions on this Jeter ball

                    Originally posted by Skizzick
                    I wasn't pointing out your opinion specifically, but saying somethings is "definitely real" or "100%" on any item is an exaggeration, especally when not seeing it in person. Even PSA/DNA, JSA, etc. only say something is "likely authentic" without witnessing the signing of the item themselves.
                    Sorry for coming across that way. I probably should have just made the comment, without highlighting your comment.

                    I agree with you. However, didn't see him sign it, but I can say that is his signature. 100% guaranteed in my mind (lol)
                    Regards, Tony

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                    • Griffey24fan
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 151

                      #25
                      Re: Authenticity Opinions on this Jeter ball

                      Originally posted by johnsontravis@ymail.com
                      I wouldn't be very comfortable buying that baseball. It could be real or it could easily be fake. To anyone saying it is surely fake I want you to go to the link below and tell me if you saw that ball without any authentication if you would call it legit? Derek Jeter is extremely inconsistent because of his scribble filled signature.

                      http://m.ebay.com/itm/181639881163

                      He is really not as inconsistent as most think, he tends to have the same known characteristics for most autographs. That eBay auction Steiner or not is consistent with his signature and fine.

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                      • yankees506
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 1064

                        #26
                        Re: Authenticity Opinions on this Jeter ball

                        Originally posted by Griffey24fan
                        He is really not as inconsistent as most think, he tends to have the same known characteristics for most autographs. That eBay auction Steiner or not is consistent with his signature and fine.
                        I respectfully disagree. Auto is a solid fake

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                        • yankees506
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 1064

                          #27
                          Re: Authenticity Opinions on this Jeter ball

                          Sorry meant op ball is a solid forgery

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                          • spartanservitto
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 932

                            #28
                            Re: Authenticity Opinions on this Jeter ball

                            The ball is 100 percent real. I have got him so many times - it's pretty easy to spot a fake.
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                            • spartanservitto
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2010
                              • 932

                              #29
                              Re: Authenticity Opinions on this Jeter ball

                              Here is one I got at a restaurant near the old ritz in Dearborn when I was 17-18.
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                              Always looking for ALEX AVILA, ALBERT PUJOLS, HOME RUN BATS, and any high end gamers from 90's-00's stars.

                              Tony Servitto
                              My Email: servitto84@yahoo.com
                              My Website: http://vitosbatsandmemorabilia.webs.com/

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                              • spartanservitto
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2010
                                • 932

                                #30
                                Re: Authenticity Opinions on this Jeter ball

                                Here is one I got at the team bus.
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                                Always looking for ALEX AVILA, ALBERT PUJOLS, HOME RUN BATS, and any high end gamers from 90's-00's stars.

                                Tony Servitto
                                My Email: servitto84@yahoo.com
                                My Website: http://vitosbatsandmemorabilia.webs.com/

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