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    Senior Member 3arod13's Avatar
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    Ebay Feedback - What?

    Haven't done much selling on ebay lately, and wasn't aware of the many changes they've made when it comes to feedback between buyers and sellers.

    I just sold a few cards and an 8x10 signed photo (offerred free shipping), packaged securely in a priority mail envelope. Buyer emails me and claims priority mail envelope was folded and creased the photo. In order to do so, you would have to completely fold the envelope and push down on the envelope for this to happen. Even if you took each side of the envelope and brought both points together, it wouldn't fold, would only bend, but not damage a photo in the envelope. Envelopes are acturally pretty good.

    Seller wants $25 of cost refunded. As I stated to the buyer, we can be resonsible for how the post office mishandles mail (if this even happened).

    So, the buyer leaves me nutural feedback and stated bad packaging, which isn't accurate.

    What shocked me was when I went to leave feedback, my options were only to leave positive.

    This is truly ridiculous and unfair.
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    Re: Ebay Feedback - What?

    Its been that way for a long time now, ebay is a buyers world.

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    Re: Ebay Feedback - What?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jags Fan Dan View Post
    Its been that way for a long time now, ebay is a buyers world.
    Truly sad and unfair!
    Regards, Tony

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    Re: Ebay Feedback - What?

    Tony -

    I had my 1st ever non paying bidder a couple of weeks ago. He wrote and gave me a date he would (which I was fine with) then never contacted me again.

    I opened a claim against him (feedback said it couldn't be left until I let claim run it's course). Claim closed and he got a non-paying bidder strike - and I can't leave feedback of any type.

    It sucks.

    - Smitty

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    Re: Ebay Feedback - What?

    Two things:

    - I would not want any photo shipped to me in a priority envelope unless it was in a top load or the seller added some sort of cardboard backer. It does not have to be folded flat to leave a mark.

    - Insurance is for the seller.

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    Re: Ebay Feedback - What?

    Quote Originally Posted by otismalibu View Post
    Two things:

    - I would not want any photo shipped to me in a priority envelope unless it was in a top load or the seller added some sort of cardboard backer. It does not have to be folded flat to leave a mark.

    - Insurance is for the seller.
    Photo was heavy stock and was placed in a thick plastic sheet. There was also a large bubble wrapped brown envelope inside in which there was one PSA card in a holder, in addition to a few other cards. The envelope was pretty thick and solid.

    Free Shipping, Priority Mail, $50 insurance.

    I have shipped and received more than 100 photos in priority mail envelopes with zero problems.

    I agree that ifyou emailed the seller and told them to do that, then good. However, you can't hold sellers responsible for the post offices mishandling of mail.

    In this situation, it's the post office...not the seller! Photo did not have any creases in it, nor did the envelope when mailed.

    Thanks!
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    Re: Ebay Feedback - What?

    But I will add, this was a lesson learned and will be done in the future.
    Regards, Tony

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    Re: Ebay Feedback - What?

    However, you can't hold sellers responsible for the post offices mishandling of mail.
    So if you order something on Amazon or any other website and it arrives damaged, what do you do? I don't think any of us would accept "Hey, it was fine when it left".

    The deal ain't done until the item the buyer paid for is in his/her hands and in same condition as advertised.

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    Re: Ebay Feedback - What?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3arod13 View Post
    Photo was heavy stock and was placed in a thick plastic sheet. There was also a large bubble wrapped brown envelope inside in which there was one PSA card in a holder, in addition to a few other cards. The envelope was pretty thick and solid.

    Free Shipping, Priority Mail, $50 insurance.

    I have shipped and received more than 100 photos in priority mail envelopes with zero problems.

    I agree that ifyou emailed the seller and told them to do that, then good. However, you can't hold sellers responsible for the post offices mishandling of mail.

    In this situation, it's the post office...not the seller! Photo did not have any creases in it, nor did the envelope when mailed.

    Thanks!
    Tony,

    Did you ask this lying POS to send you a picture of the "crease" on the photo?

    I for one don't believe the buyer, not at all. It's just another cheap (rhymes with bass and custard) trying to get a discounted price for ther items he bought from you. Happens all the time.

    Tell him to send you a picture, or to go pound sand until his knuckles bleed. Then tell him to find a sidewalk and continue pounding.

    I would also recommend you fight with ebay to get them to remove that feedback until they do. You have nothing to lose, and everything to gain.

    Sometimes you've just got to take a stand. Not everything is "positive" in this world, no matter how much ebay or any other entity wants us all to think so.

    Chris

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    Re: Ebay Feedback - What?

    The system was put in to stop sellers leaving retaliation feedback, which it looks like you were trying to do. I assume the buyer paid on time, received damaged merchandise and when he contacted you about it, you declined him any recourse? So he basically did nothing wrong. Whether you feel it was well packaged or not, the buyer has a right to disagree and leave appropriate feedback, you shouldn't get to retaliate because you are mad.

    OTOH, I would never give partial refunds either, I would have told him to send it back for a total refund. That keeps away the guys who try to get discounts after the sale and I know that I am trying to do right if he was telling the truth about the damage.

 

 

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