Deceased Players - Right or Wrong

[10thMan]

Re: Deceased Players - Right or Wrong

I Failed to answer the Question,
WRONG, just my opinion. When it comes to the Allmighty Dollar, Ethics, Morals, Religion, may as well be forgotten, with SOME people.

Sean

[zonker]

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just my 2 cent's the weekend befor buck o'neal died he was in chantilly va. doing a sighning i arrived late and was the 3rd to last person in line for his autograph and buck sighned my vintage worth bat as well as monte irvin, carl long, jim zapp and frank marsh, the other 2 had baseball's, so could this be the last bat signed by buck very possible! the reason i bring this up is when i found out about buck i as a collector i didn't go yeah and try to make money off my item because it became even more valuble to me and i was sad for that sweet old man and don't understand how anybody would want to try make a profit off a death of a person any person. i can understand as a seller to sell when demand is high is good business. i think it's wrong when death is involved but who's to blame the seller or the collector and his need to obtain! who cares (right or wrong) no matter how you lok at it it's just bad bussiness!!!

[jessicawinters]

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If you think the buyers are morbid, then YOU ARE MORBID.


It's very simple. Collectors buy things immediately after a death not because they're sick, but because they want a connection with that athlete. It's a form of paying respect. They're not gonna say, "I'm saddened that he died. I'd like to have his signed bat, but let me wait 2 months for the price to go down.."

It's not like an average fan will keep a record of prices before, right after and 2 months removed. Whatever the price is at that moment is probably the only price the buyer knows of; there are no points of comparison.

Now, without the sellers offering these items, how will the loyal fans pay their respects? So, it's more of a public service.

[jessicawinters]

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I Failed to answer the Question,
WRONG, just my opinion. When it comes to the Allmighty Dollar, Ethics, Morals, Religion, may as well be forgotten, with SOME people.

Sean

10thMan, I'm guessing you're not part of those SOME people? You think you're better than the rest? I wouldn't count on it, buddy.

[10thMan]

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Funny, but I DO remember reading another post where people were willing to take money, from a lost wallet etc...Weren`t YOU one of them??? I never said anything to suggest I`m different. I wouldnt take money out of a lost wallet though.

I dont live my Life as "better than, or less than" I feel sorry for those that do, Honestly.

Personally, I own several Federal & State Licenses. I just happen to be a Notary Public, for example. There`s a reason lots of people can`t be Notaries, simply a matter of Ethics.

Those that know, are aware (busy) Notaries are presented with COUNTLESS Opportunities to scam. I was just offered 5000.00$ CASH to Notarize a Document without said Person Present. Needless to say, I didn`t do it. NOT ANYONE on this Board of Course.

Maybe I AM different, that`s something to be Proud of!
Thanks for the Reply,
Sean

[jake33]

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Many in the game used industry are using a player's name (when he was or IS an pro athlete) to make money when they are alive. It shouldn't be that big of a deal whoring it out when they die.

Hwoever, i do think it is a little distrubing seeing over 1,000 corey lidle items on ebay right after he dies.

[3arod13]

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Question: Do you see anything wrong when a player passes away, collectors flood ebay/auctions market with that individuals cards/memorabilia, in what I feel is to take advantage of making a profit from their passing? Is this wrong? Am I reading into this too much, or is it just part of the hobby? This always bothers me when I see it. Example: Pat Tillman

I still have trouble with this. Would this seller be selling this item if Eddie Robinson didn't recenlty pass away? I don't believe so. Being personalized, and with his passing, wouldn't you think the seller would appreciate the item that much more?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Eddie-Robinson-SIGNED-College-Hall-of-Fame-Dinnr-Ticket_W0QQitemZ180104073838QQihZ008QQcategoryZ23797QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[David]

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If the seller puts something on eBay with a 1 penny minimum bid, and is willing to sell it for 1 penny if that's the highest bid, I'm not sure the seller is to blame if it goes for $500. The seller may be as shocked as anyone that it went for $500.

[allstarsplus]

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Paralyzed Ex-NFL Player Stingley Dies at 55
Pats Receiver Injured by Hit From Tatum in 1978

By SOPHIA TAREEN
AP Sports
CHICAGO (April 5) - Darryl Stingley, paralyzed after a vicious hit during an NFL exhibition game nearly 30 years ago, died Thursday. He was 55.

[camarokids]

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Paralyzed Ex-NFL Player Stingley Dies at 55
Pats Receiver Injured by Hit From Tatum in 1978

By SOPHIA TAREEN
AP Sports
CHICAGO (April 5) - Darryl Stingley, paralyzed after a vicious hit during an NFL exhibition game nearly 30 years ago, died Thursday. He was 55.

I remember watching the game at Foxboro when he was honored not long after being injured and felt really bad for the guy ....

[suave1477]

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If you think the buyers are morbid, then YOU ARE MORBID.


It's very simple. Collectors buy things immediately after a death not because they're sick, but because they want a connection with that athlete. It's a form of paying respect. They're not gonna say, "I'm saddened that he died. I'd like to have his signed bat, but let me wait 2 months for the price to go down.."

It's not like an average fan will keep a record of prices before, right after and 2 months removed. Whatever the price is at that moment is probably the only price the buyer knows of; there are no points of comparison.

Now, without the sellers offering these items, how will the loyal fans pay their respects? So, it's more of a public service.

I AM A BIT SURPRISED WITH SOME OF YOU!!! YOU ACT LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING NEW THAT JUST STARTED YESTERDAY, ITEMS SELLING OVER PREMIUM AFTER A PERSON DYING HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR CENTURIES
WHEN KINGS DIE
ARTISTS
PRESIDENTS
MOVIE STARS
ATHLETES

This is nothing new!!! As far as it being morally wrong YES ONLY IF THE SELLER IS BLATANTLY USING THE DEATH TO HELP SELL HIS PRODUCT.

If the seller is selling the product with out using the death in a cold way at the time of the Persons death and selling it at an over premium and someone is willing to pay THEN WHY NOT!!

If im selling a Cory Lidle ball for $500 is that morally wrong NO
If someone is willing to buy it from me for the $500 is that morally wrong NO
Point blank!! What is the differnece when someone is over charging for an item when someone is alive NOW THATS MORALLY WRONG!!!

I USED JESSICA WINTERS QUOTE because she is a 100% correct from a buyers standpoint.
Some people may want to have an attachment to the person who died so they are willing to pay a higher premium at the time of death figuring that the supply may run low, chances are there is usually a good supply out there for that particular person but people dont want to take the chance.
Would I personally buy items at the time of a persons deth highly I highly doubt it. But this is the reason why things are the way they are.

[geoff]

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People do what they want to do in this industry.Sometimes it makes me sick how far people are willing to go.But the all mighty dollar is talking and if you have bills to pay you do what you have to do to feed your family if you have one or house/car payment etc.Geoff