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  1. #11
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    Re: Grey Flannel Auction

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil316 View Post
    I don't really understand your logic or maybe i have higher morals than you. Either way to each his own.
    Morals!!! Are you kidding me for one I said do your homework on anything that is purchased. If this is the case of buying from GF that you have more morals than me, then you're calling out the majority of the collecting community. You constantly call out and cry about Scot Monette, well Goldin has sold many of his collections recently that he has picked up and so have a lot of other auction houses so since they sell items from Scot you better not buy from any auction house.

    There's current threads with Dave M admitting wrong doing and I value Dave's opinion items but he's a man and admits he made a mistake so based on your opinion we better not buy anything with Dave's name on it. If you do you don't have morals or logic.

    Lelands auction is selling a jersey that is GAME USED (MLB hologram) by Bryce Harper and there is speculation this jersey was not actually worn during the game. If this was worn during warm ups or bp this is not a game used jersey. An actual game time recognizes from first pitch until the last out is made so a game used item should be used in this timeframe. MLB Auctions just sold a game used Nolan Arenado Mothers Day bat that was a Rawlings, I haven't watch the game yet but from Getty photos I only see a pink Old Hickory so another mistake. I have countless examples of these with mlb. So from your opinion I have no logic and no morals since I buy items with mlb holos and they have questionable items.

    NFL Auctions was called out countless times on this forum for game used jerseys that were not used in the game they were authenticated to, more questionable items and no morals and logic from me because I buy from them.

    Many players have been called out on their own items and being questionable or not at all what they think, so no buying direct from players.

    So this basically leaves you with making your own game used items, I hope that's going well for you. The thing is I'm a realist about the times that we live in and how things work.

    Let me guess Mr. 316 you're a big church goer, well let me tell you there is just as much corruption in church system as anything else. Well I do practice religion so I guess I have no logic and no morals since I associate myself with this.

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    Re: Grey Flannel Auction

    Quote Originally Posted by jbean023 View Post
    Morals!!! Are you kidding me for one I said do your homework on anything that is purchased. If this is the case of buying from GF that you have more morals than me, then you're calling out the majority of the collecting community. You constantly call out and cry about Scot Monette, well Goldin has sold many of his collections recently that he has picked up and so have a lot of other auction houses so since they sell items from Scot you better not buy from any auction house.

    There's current threads with Dave M admitting wrong doing and I value Dave's opinion items but he's a man and admits he made a mistake so based on your opinion we better not buy anything with Dave's name on it. If you do you don't have morals or logic.

    Lelands auction is selling a jersey that is GAME USED (MLB hologram) by Bryce Harper and there is speculation this jersey was not actually worn during the game. If this was worn during warm ups or bp this is not a game used jersey. An actual game time recognizes from first pitch until the last out is made so a game used item should be used in this timeframe. MLB Auctions just sold a game used Nolan Arenado Mothers Day bat that was a Rawlings, I haven't watch the game yet but from Getty photos I only see a pink Old Hickory so another mistake. I have countless examples of these with mlb. So from your opinion I have no logic and no morals since I buy items with mlb holos and they have questionable items.

    NFL Auctions was called out countless times on this forum for game used jerseys that were not used in the game they were authenticated to, more questionable items and no morals and logic from me because I buy from them.

    Many players have been called out on their own items and being questionable or not at all what they think, so no buying direct from players.

    So this basically leaves you with making your own game used items, I hope that's going well for you. The thing is I'm a realist about the times that we live in and how things work.

    Let me guess Mr. 316 you're a big church goer, well let me tell you there is just as much corruption in church system as anything else. Well I do practice religion so I guess I have no logic and no morals since I associate myself with this.
    Allright well since you are a "realist" I will leave you to it. Sounds like you got all the angles covered.

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    Re: Grey Flannel Auction

    Before I leave you to it I just wanna say one more thing. It was never my intention to call into question your morals. I suck with wording as its not my strong suit.

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    Re: Grey Flannel Auction

    There was a Jets Willig jersey in the auction from 1993. The jets wore a patch the whole year, I emailed them asking if it was pre season worn or the patch was removed and never got an answer. Oh well. Kept money in my pocket

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    Re: Grey Flannel Auction

    Hello Everyone,
    I don't visit or post here nearly as much as I once did. Usually it's only just to see Dave Miedema's posts. There's still always so much to learn from him. And the most ironic, yet wonderful thing about Dave is that he probably knows way more about this hobby than any of us. Yet he is by far, the most humble of all the members here. He won't ever discredit an item for some ridiculous non factor reason simply because he doesn't like a particular auction house. That's clearly evident here with many other posters. Instead, his valuable posts often get lost amongst the many egos and self proclaimed experts here. And apparently, even our morals are expected to be graded and added into the equation now. Personally, I actually like GF alot. As I mentioned earlier, I was very happy with their recent auction, having consigned and bidding on several items. I understand that some dislike GF and that's ok. But to trash them and their items redundantly gets tiresome after a while.

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    Re: Grey Flannel Auction

    Quote Originally Posted by jbean023 View Post
    Morals!!! Are you kidding me for one I said do your homework on anything that is purchased. If this is the case of buying from GF that you have more morals than me, then you're calling out the majority of the collecting community. You constantly call out and cry about Scot Monette, well Goldin has sold many of his collections recently that he has picked up and so have a lot of other auction houses so since they sell items from Scot you better not buy from any auction house.

    There's current threads with Dave M admitting wrong doing and I value Dave's opinion items but he's a man and admits he made a mistake so based on your opinion we better not buy anything with Dave's name on it. If you do you don't have morals or logic.

    Lelands auction is selling a jersey that is GAME USED (MLB hologram) by Bryce Harper and there is speculation this jersey was not actually worn during the game. If this was worn during warm ups or bp this is not a game used jersey. An actual game time recognizes from first pitch until the last out is made so a game used item should be used in this timeframe. MLB Auctions just sold a game used Nolan Arenado Mothers Day bat that was a Rawlings, I haven't watch the game yet but from Getty photos I only see a pink Old Hickory so another mistake. I have countless examples of these with mlb. So from your opinion I have no logic and no morals since I buy items with mlb holos and they have questionable items.

    NFL Auctions was called out countless times on this forum for game used jerseys that were not used in the game they were authenticated to, more questionable items and no morals and logic from me because I buy from them.

    Many players have been called out on their own items and being questionable or not at all what they think, so no buying direct from players.

    So this basically leaves you with making your own game used items, I hope that's going well for you. The thing is I'm a realist about the times that we live in and how things work.

    Let me guess Mr. 316 you're a big church goer, well let me tell you there is just as much corruption in church system as anything else. Well I do practice religion so I guess I have no logic and no morals since I associate myself with this.
    Couldn't agree more!

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    Talking Re: Grey Flannel Auction

    Quote Originally Posted by Danny899 View Post
    Hello Everyone,
    I don't visit or post here nearly as much as I once did. Usually it's only just to see Dave Miedema's posts. There's still always so much to learn from him. And the most ironic, yet wonderful thing about Dave is that he probably knows way more about this hobby than any of us. Yet he is by far, the most humble of all the members here. He won't ever discredit an item for some ridiculous non factor reason simply because he doesn't like a particular auction house. That's clearly evident here with many other posters. Instead, his valuable posts often get lost amongst the many egos and self proclaimed experts here. And apparently, even our morals are expected to be graded and added into the equation now. Personally, I actually like GF alot. As I mentioned earlier, I was very happy with their recent auction, having consigned and bidding on several items. I understand that some dislike GF and that's ok. But to trash them and their items redundantly gets tiresome after a while.
    Dan:

    Thanks for the kind words...all the way back to the SCD Frank Barning column back in the day.

    Dave M.

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    Re: Grey Flannel Auction

    Quote Originally Posted by sox83cubs84 View Post
    Dan:

    Thanks for the kind words...all the way back to the SCD Frank Barning column back in the day.

    Dave M.
    That's right! The article they did about my Rickey Henderson gamer collection where I mentioned you as a mentor. You remembered that! That was over 20 years ago. You should see the collection now! Nice to hear from you, Dave. You're the best!

 

 

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