Any Kaepernick Collectors?

[volunteer]

Kaepernick has been fined by the NFL in the past for using racial slurs. Now he's wearing a Fidel Castro t-shirt. This latest incident just confirms he's a head case.

[Dewey2007]

I always knew Jackie Robinson was a lousy human being...how could that ungrateful, high paid baseball player disrespect the stars and stripes like that...

http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2016/08/29/...lute-the-flag/

http://jackierobinsonchangedsports.w...ry-career.html

[Juicyfruit66]

I agree. At Blue Jays and, in the past, Expos games in Chicago, I would stand and respect the Canadian National Anthem as well as my own.

Actually, in 1992, I intially had no rooting interest in the World Series between the Blue Jays and Braves. I did get one shortly therein when, during the pregame presentation of colors, some wiseass decided to raise the Canadian flag upside-down (this was in Atlanta). I thought it was a classless act, and it prompted me, for the rest of the Series, to cheer for Toronto.

Dave Miedema

Haha I completely forgot about the flag incident!

[Juicyfruit66]

I always knew Jackie Robinson was a lousy human being...how could that ungrateful, high paid baseball player disrespect the stars and stripes like that...

http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2016/08/29/...lute-the-flag/

http://jackierobinsonchangedsports.w...ry-career.html

Did jackie not stand at the game as a player or is that jackie talking 20 years after the fact?

[Juicyfruit66]

Did jackie not stand at the game as a player or is that jackie talking 20 years after the fact?

Cause there's a big difference between being a knob when retired and being a knob in uniform representing a team and city

[Trublubrucru]

Jackie was spit on, slurred, and punched for trying to steal 3rd. No comparison. If he needs to make a political statement, take a couple of million, rent a venue, call the press, announce your canadicy, and launch a campaign that announces your beliefs and what YOU are gonna do about it. If not shut t.f.u.

[64SHEA]

I have not been on the site in a while and this is the first post I see. I thought I could add to the discussion by sharing my grandfather’s thoughts (he served in the Philippines during WWII). A few years ago, we went to see Santana make a rehab start in Brooklyn. Two people in front of us noticed Johan did not come out for the anthem, and continued to complain about it for the first few innings. I don’t know why he wasn’t there, he was probably working with the trainer or doing some other work in preparation for his first start, but I couldn’t care less either way and neither could my grandfather. Around the third inning, my grandfather taps one of the guys on the shoulder and asks him what the hell he has done for his country. They didn’t say much after that, but I found out my grandfather felt the same way I always had. I always try to stand for any countries national anthem, but we couldn’t care less if someone doesn’t want to. Standing for 30 seconds or putting a flag on your lawn doesn’t make you a patriot, or even a good person for that matter. Go out and actually do something, buy a homeless vet a hot meal, anything. That’s my little rant on the subject, just don’t get me started on god bless America.

[Juicyfruit66]

I have not been on the site in a while and this is the first post I see. I thought I could add to the discussion by sharing my grandfather’s thoughts (he served in the Philippines during WWII). A few years ago, we went to see Santana make a rehab start in Brooklyn. Two people in front of us noticed Johan did not come out for the anthem, and continued to complain about it for the first few innings. I don’t know why he wasn’t there, he was probably working with the trainer or doing some other work in preparation for his first start, but I couldn’t care less either way and neither could my grandfather. Around the third inning, my grandfather taps one of the guys on the shoulder and asks him what the hell he has done for his country. They didn’t say much after that, but I found out my grandfather felt the same way I always had. I always try to stand for any countries national anthem, but we couldn’t care less if someone doesn’t want to. Standing for 30 seconds or putting a flag on your lawn doesn’t make you a patriot, or even a good person for that matter. Go out and actually do something, buy a homeless vet a hot meal, anything. That’s my little rant on the subject, just don’t get me started on god bless America.

I think the main problem is he's not just some guy deciding not to stand ( i grew up in montreal having to watch tons of seperatists refuse to stand for the canadian anthem)....the problem is he's a paid athlete representing a city and is expected to stand whether he likes it or not. There's a reason teams and police and the military all dress in uniforms (not only does it make you recognizable but it also creates unity among the men and women). By being mister independent whiny pants he messed up his team and its fans. Personally i think his views are misguided and skewed by the media but hey, this is a sports forum basically leave your views at the door unless you are getting paid to have an opinion.

[Juicyfruit66]

Read this today, really brings kaepernick's importance into perspective:


Chris Amos
Yesterday at 5:28am ·
An Open Letter to Colin Kaepernick,
Dear Colin guess you have been pretty busy these last few days. For the record I don’t think any more or less of you for not standing for the National Anthem. Honestly, I never thought that much about you, or any professional athlete for that matter, to begin with. I’ve read your statement a few times and want you to know I am one of the reasons you are protesting. You see I am a retired police officer that had the misfortune of having to shoot and kill a 19-year-old African American male. And just like you said, I was the recipient of about $3,000 a month while on leave which was a good thing because I had to support a wife and three children under 7-years-old for about 2 months with that money. Things were pretty tight because I couldn’t work part time. Every police officer I’ve ever known has worked part-time to help make ends meet.
You know Colin the more I think about it the more we seem to have in common. I really pushed myself in rehab to get back on the street, kind of like you do to get back on the field. You probably have had a broken bone or two and some muscle strains and deep bruising that needed a lot of work. I just had to bounce back from a gunshot wound to the chest and thigh. Good thing we both get paid when we are too banged up to “play”, huh? We both also know what it’s like to get blindsided. You by a 280- pound defensive end, ouch! Me, by a couple of rounds fired from a gun about 2 feet away, into my chest and thigh. We also both make our living wearing uniforms, right? You have probably ruined a jersey or two on the field of play. I still have my blood stained shirt that my partner and paramedics literally ripped off my back that cold night in January. Fortunately, like you I was given a new one. Speaking of paramedics aren’t you glad the second we get hurt trainers and doctors are standing by waiting to rush onto the field to scoop us up. I’m thankful they get to you in seconds. It only took them about 10 minutes to get to me. By the grace of God, the artery in my thigh didn’t rupture or else 10 minutes would have been about 9 minutes too late. We also have both experienced the hate and disgust others have just because of those uniforms we wear. I sure am glad for your sake that the folks who wear my uniform are on hand to escort you and those folks that wear your uniform into stadiums in places like Seattle!
I guess that’s where the similarities end Colin. You entertain for a living, I and almost 800,000 others across this country serve and protect. Are there some bad apples within my profession? Absolutely and they need to be identified and fired or arrested! But you know what, the vast majority do the right thing, the right way, for the right reason. Did I mention that seconds before I was shot, an elderly African American gentleman walking down the sidewalk, turned to my partner and I as we rode past and said, “Get them.” Get who you ask? The thugs terrorizing an otherwise good and decent neighborhood, home to dozens of good, decent African American families trying to raise those families in communities not protected by gates and security guards. No these folks and families depend on America’s Law Enforcement Officers.
Colin I have buried 7 friends, killed in the line of duty and three others who have committed suicide. I have attended more funerals than I care to remember of neighboring departments who have lost officers in the line of duty, during my career. Law Enforcement Officers with different backgrounds, upbringings, and experiences united by their willingness to answer the call to protect and serve their fellow citizens.
Colin I am sorry for the endorsement deals you may lose and the dip in jersey sales, but please know you will NEVER lose what these men and women and their families have lost. And so whether you stand or sit during the National Anthem means very little to me. As for me and the men and women on whose team I was privileged to serve, we will put on our ballistic vests, badge, and gun, kiss our loved one’s goodbye, for some tragically for the last time, and out into a shift of uncertainty we will go. We will continue to protect and continue to serve and we will be standing at attention Colin, not just for the playing of our National Anthem, but far more importantly for the playing of Taps.
V/R
Chris Amos
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[cjw]

I agree. At Blue Jays and, in the past, Expos games in Chicago, I would stand and respect the Canadian National Anthem as well as my own.

Actually, in 1992, I intially had no rooting interest in the World Series between the Blue Jays and Braves. I did get one shortly therein when, during the pregame presentation of colors, some wiseass decided to raise the Canadian flag upside-down (this was in Atlanta). I thought it was a classless act, and it prompted me, for the rest of the Series, to cheer for Toronto.

Dave Miedema

As a proud Canadian, I thank you Dave!