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08-25-2018, 07:05 PM #1
After speaking with Dave i have grown to respect the authentication process and how tricky it can be. Many factors play a part. Unlike us collectors who can spend hours looking for that photo-match, the people who authenticate do not have hours to spend on that one item when they have 500 other items or more to authenticate. We also do not see or know how many got rejected.
I just want to close out this thread by saying i have communicated my finding's with Dave. Dave addressed mine and others issues and i am sure will take the appropriate actions.
I have called out a few authenticator's before and Dave was the only one that communicates and actually addresses concerns. That says alot about a person's character.
Phil
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08-26-2018, 12:43 PM #2
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A lot of people ask what's wrong lately with the forum and this post is the perfect example of part of the problem. One guy questions some items and then all we get is few days of banter going back and fourth about how hard it is to receive emails from each other. It would have been nice and educational for us if you guys would have shared some details. Bottom line is that after some initial questions about a few PSA certified items all we got was back pedaling with a few kisses blown in Daves direction.
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08-26-2018, 03:33 PM #3
No kisses blown, straight lips lol. In all seriousness I wanted to give Dave a chance to respond. I work for King County corrections and had a lot of hours to put in this week. I did not have time to post a huge long explanation for all to see. It was easier to speak with Dave privately.
I have no problem posting some examples if you would like to see. Let me know.
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08-26-2018, 05:23 PM #4
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Gee Whiz.....Thank you so much!!! I'll think about and "Let You Know".
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08-26-2018, 11:09 PM #5
Here is the Lasorda jacket offered in VSA http://vsaauctions.com/Tom_Lasorda_c...-LOT26569.aspx
Here is the Lasorda that was customized by Bill Henderson
Here is the Phillies Steve Carlton Jacket on VSA http://vsaauctions.com/Steve_Carlton...-LOT26940.aspx
Here is the Carlton that was customized by Bill Henderson
A former member of GUU has been in contact with Bill Henderson. I guess there is more that Bill did in that auction as well. None of these where consigned by Bill Henderson.
Then we have the 2001 Ichiro that is not authentic, he did not wear a size 44 while with the Mariners. I was also in contact with another Mariners collector and suspect some of the other more current Mariners jerseys, under shirts and helmets.
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08-28-2018, 02:33 PM #6
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anyone else think that modifying time specific pieces to include a players name where one didnt exist shouldnt be done OR something should be done to the item afterwards so it cannot be misrepresented in the future? it just creates these types of issues. i never understood changing or adding to something that is vintage - just leave it be. my 2 cents.
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08-27-2018, 04:20 PM #7
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Thank you Phil. i will say, also, that it is gratifying to see knowledgeable collector who care as well, and can communicate their concerns fairly and not turn it into an exercise in demonization. Your approach is appreciated, Phil...feel free to give me a holler any time.
Dave M.
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08-27-2018, 07:19 PM #8
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Phil, Thank you for sharing. The Bill Henderson connection is very interesting and not something I was aware of.
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Dave M ........Your help here is always helpful and appreciated.
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08-27-2018, 08:07 PM #9
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08-27-2018, 11:41 PM #10
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Wow, it is scary. what Bill does...he can probably remember what his work is..he and Dave should really link up...