Card Companies and "Game Used" Cards

[Texans]

I found this on ebay. Either some one tried to fake a patch or Upper Deck is just buying authentic jersey.

[indyred]

Anyone see the Honus Wagner Sterling 1/1 bat barrel card. I believe with that signature on it, it's from a replica mini bat. A few of those on ebay and sig looks same as those. Anyone see a Wagner bat with this style of signature on it?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=290290071438

[frikativ54]

I found this on ebay. Either some one tried to fake a patch or Upper Deck is just buying authentic jersey.

That linked image is gone, but some people like to fake patches. A regular old white swatch isn't worth much these days, but a con-man can insert a multi-colored patch card and get $100+ from the sale. So - you have to be really careful that you are getting what is advertised.

[spartakid]

Wow, I didn't reealize that people faked patches on cards. It's a conspiracy!

[woody1351]

i really like this thread i usually dont read everything written but i did on this one. very informative

[kingjammy24]

what surprises me is the massive level of trust required in these game-used cards. typically when a collector evaluates a game-used item, they've got the entire item to look at in order to see how the whole thing measures up. at times, collecting some of these game-used items can be a complex thing. ultimately, each collector decides if they're comfortable with a piece based on what they see in the piece and what they know.

with game-used cards, all of that is thrown completely out the window. there's nothing to ascertain. you're given a 2"x2" swatch of fabric or square of wood and told "this is a piece of mantle's bat" or "this is a piece of gehrig's jersey". the evidence? none. you've just got to completely and wholly place every ounce of your trust in upper deck or donruss or whoever. wow. people talk about the leaps of faith required in this hobby but the leaps required in collecting game-used cards seem to go beyond religious proportions. there's probably more evidence pointing to the existence of God than there is to a 2"x2" piece of wood being from lou gehrig's bat.

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/...__forgeri.html

rudy.

[cincy13]

I know some of the high end jerseys in the Barry Halper/Sotheby's auction were won by card companies. I believe this includes the Ty Cobb Athletics jersey.

If I remember right, alot of Halper's high end jersey's were proven later to be bogus. I wonder, did they end up being cut up?

[Ollie]

I found this video from Topps in which they tour the 'Relic Room' and explain how they prepare the items for their relic cards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzDa5jgVV-8

The view of the cut up Mantle jersey and bat makes me want to cry

[Eric]

Is the autograph on this Kurt Warner swatch below the stitching?

http://webzoom.freewebs.com/jdworley...t%20Warner.jpg

[joelsabi]

you got to love the premium dealers are asking for three colors game used swatches. someone tell what i am missing.