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    MeiGray to partnership with NBA

    Looks Meigray is going to be the offical source of game used for the NBA. News release on the site. Great news for NBA fans. If Barry reads this. Does it mean you will have every team starting next year? Or will it be like hockey where you have most, but a few will market on their own.

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    Re: MeiGray to partnership with NBA

    Hi IndyRed,

    Thanks for noticing the post on our website.

    Yes, MeiGray and the National Basketball Association have created the NBA and MeiGray Game-Worn Authentication Program. MeiGray is proud to announce we have been named "The Official Game-Worn Source of the NBA."

    As of now, this NBA agreement is with the league. Our available inventory, some of which will be available via auction and some which will be available via retail sale, will be from selected league events.

    Our first auction offerings are game-worn jerseys (most with accompanying shorts) and game-used basketballs from the 2006-07 Europe Live and Puerto Rico '06 preseason games involving the Detroit Pistons, Los Angeles Clippers, Miami Heat, San Antonio Spurs, Philadelphia 76ers and Phoenix Suns.

    We also have game-used basketballs from the 2007 NBA All-Star Game and special events.

    As many of you know, MeiGray already represents the Dallas Mavs and Memphis Grizzlies.

    For all items offered through our partnership with the NBA, MeiGray will be using the same security features that have worked so well for NHL-MGG since 2002. We intend to offer basketball collectors the highest standards of integrity and reliability for an exciting array of game-worn and game-used items.

    Every game-worn and game-used item that comes directly off the backs of the NBA’s greatest players and directly off the courts from the league’s most exciting events will be done under the watchful eyes of an NBA or MeiGray Authentication Program representative.

    Every item offered by NBA and MeiGray will be authenticated and registered into the NBA Authenticated Program Database. Every item is worthy of a Hall of Fame-caliber sports collection because every item is unconditionally guaranteed for life to be game-worn or game-used.

    Over the next few weeks, we will be releasing more details on our new program. So stay tuned.

    Thanks,

    Barry Meisel, MeiGray

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    Re: MeiGray to partnership with NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by BarryMeisel View Post
    Every item offered by NBA and MeiGray will be authenticated and registered into the NBA Authenticated Program Database. Every item is worthy of a Hall of Fame-caliber sports collection because every item is unconditionally guaranteed for life to be game-worn or game-used.
    I like to think of myself as strictly a game used bat guy, but coming from a person who has occasionally viewed "game used" basketball jerseys (on ebay for example) with a certain degree of skepticism as whether they were actually used or issued I have to say that this is a huge step forward with regard to NBA jerseys.
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    Re: MeiGray to partnership with NBA

    Barry-

    CONGRATS!!!!!

    It will be extremely interesting to see how quickly the superstar jerseys WITHOUT MEIGRAY tagging vanish from EVERY major auction house..... WADE....NASH....POOF....GONE!!!!!!!!!

    This is a huge step and we can only hope that you get the exclusive rights for EVERY team.

    Howard Wolf
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    Re: MeiGray to partnership with NBA

    "It will be extremely interesting to see how quickly the superstar jerseys WITHOUT MEIGRAY tagging vanish from EVERY major auction house..... WADE....NASH....POOF....GONE!!!!!!!!!"

    howard,

    i'm not sure it'll be so automatic or instantaneous. after all, both gfc and historic recently had non-meigray nowitzki jerseys up for sale despite their awareness of meigray's longstanding exclusive agreement with the mavericks. (in all fairness, gfc's was a "nowinzki"). historic's nowitzki is still up for auction if you care to take a look. same goes for the non-meigray '03 and '04 texas rangers jerseys. apparently arod was permitted to market his own jerseys outside of the team agreement with meigray. the "exclusive" deal seemed to apply to everyone except arod, palmeiro and whichever other players didn't feel like participating. will that be the case with meigray's nba agreement? will various superstars be permitted to market as many jerseys as they like outside of the meigray agreement/program? if so, then it's not an entirely effective or exclusive program is it? if buyers are offered non-meigray star nba jerseys with loas issued by the marketing companies of those stars, then many buyers and auction houses will eagerly accept these and view them as having provenance as good as that of meigray. after all, in the words of victor moreno "who am i to question arod?". i'm interested in barry's response to this whole issue of players being allowed to market their jerseys outside of "exclusive" meigray/team agreements and how that affects the validity of meigray provenance.

    despite the widely known exclusive agreement between steiner and the yankees, various entities such as historic and asi regularly offer 2005+
    non-steiner yankee "gamers". steiner/yankees seemed to have done nothing to stop such sales. in jan 2007, i received an email from ASI offering the following items for sale:

    Hideki Matsui 2005 Home - $5000
    Derek Jeter 2005 Home - $5000
    Derek Jeter 2006 Home - $5000
    Robinson Cano 2005 Home - Lampson - $4000

    not a single one with steiner docs. these '05 and '06 yankee jerseys were offered by ASI over year after steiner signed their exclusive agreement with the yankees. (steiner confirmed to me that they did not sell these jerseys to ASI).

    i suspect sales will be curtailed but not eliminated. you'll still see various sellers and auctions with 2007+ nba "gamers", filled with great stories of "impeccable sources" and "friends of friends of cousins of the player".

    rudy.

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    Re: MeiGray to partnership with NBA

    Hi Rudy,

    I can't yet reply to hypotheticals regarding contracts and agreements that are not yet written or official, so I can't tell you what will happen in the future.

    I can comment on the two actual examples you discuss:

    If the Dallas jersey in Heritage Auctions is legit, the Mavs have breached a contract and have falsified documents involving the jerseys we have marketed. I highly doubt they have done that. I have not examined the jersey being auctioned by Heritage, but I question its authenticity based on lack of provenance, and lack of any factual evidence it is real. I have game logs filed by the Mavs for every game in the 2005-06 season, recording the inventory number of the jerseys used by Nowitzki in every game.

    Regarding the Texas Rangers, if Arod or any other player received permission to market his jerseys outside of our agreement, we were not made aware of that. When we signed our exclusive agreements, we were told that the inventory provided was the Texas Rangers' entire inventory. And our authenticity procedures backed the fact that the tagged jerseys we received were used in multiple games. Some were easily photo-matched to multiple games.

    I'm happy to respond to your question of players being allowed to market their jerseys outside of MeiGray "exclusive" team agreements: My comment is, every contract is different. If a contract exists where players are given these rights, we will publicize that to ensure accurate information in the hobby.

    But MeiGray's contracts have not included any such clauses. I would respectfully argue that collectors in many, many cases are taking significant risks and are purchasing non-authentic items erroneously advertised as game-worn. I say this provenance can be easily established in today's market.

    There has been some fine work done by members of this Forum to prove the illegitimacy of some jerseys (the '94 Throwback Elway issue comes immediately to mind). Teams are well aware of the value of their items. I respectfully suggest that the more vague the provenance, the less thorough the evidence of authenticity, the less likely it is that an item is legit.

    Respectfully,

    Barry

 

 

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