Cal Ripken Fielders Glove Bought for a "Song" on eBay

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  • mr.miracle
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2006
    • 883

    #16
    Re: Cal Ripken Fielders Glove Bought for a "Song" on eBay

    Originally posted by Carlevv
    Brett, what is a reasonable price? For various reasons i dont want to post pics of the glove in a public fourm. I would however share the pics if i get an offer.

    If you are able to email pics when you have a working camera to my email address listed on each post that would be great. I have only seen two Ripken gloves sold over the past three or four years on any auction format. One was the glove just purchased by a forum member that is referenced in this post on ebay. The other was sold through I believe AMI a couple of years ago for a rather ridiculous price. If you can email me privately, I will discuss this is further detail.

    What year or years is the P72 from??? or labeling period if you know? In terms of the batting gloves, are they White Franklins with Black, Black with white or Black with Orange and what year or time period are they from if you know?

    Thanks
    Brett Herman

    brettherman2131@hotmail.com

    Always looking for Cal Ripken Jr. Brooks Robinson, Boog Powell and Orioles game used bats and jersey's.

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    • mr.miracle
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2006
      • 883

      #17
      Re: Cal Ripken Fielders Glove Bought for a "Song" on eBay

      Originally posted by Carlevv
      Brett, i also have a cracked P72 with major use and its signed. I have a pair of Rip-8 batting gloves unsigned and an Orioles line up card that is signed as well. Let me know if your collection can use any of these itmes.

      I am assuming the batting gloves are the black with orange trim that Cal used I believe around 94-95 until the end of his career. Let me know on that one.

      What finish is your bat as well, forgot to ask that one?

      thanks
      Brett Herman

      brettherman2131@hotmail.com

      Always looking for Cal Ripken Jr. Brooks Robinson, Boog Powell and Orioles game used bats and jersey's.

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      • RobSteinmetz
        Moderator
        • Jan 1970
        • 431

        #18
        Re: Cal Ripken Fielders Glove Bought for a "Song" on eBay

        It is my understanding that the glove purchased on eBay by Dave O'Brien was recently rejected by Dennis Esken. Apparently the glove has the wrong lining...information that was confirmed with the Rawlings employee who actually made gloves for Cal Ripken, Jr. I'm not sure if Dave was able to get a refund on the glove from the eBay seller, but hopefully the glove isn't sold to another unsuspecting collector as a Ripken gamer.

        Rob
        Rob Steinmetz
        www.authenticgamers.com
        authenticgamers@aol.com
        708.250.5220

        Paying top dollar for Chicago Cubs game used equipment!

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        • CollectGU
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2005
          • 917

          #19
          Re: Cal Ripken Fielders Glove Bought for a "Song" on eBay

          Hi Rob,

          This is news to me, and certainly not good news. I haven't heard anything back one way or the other yet but was waiting to hear. So far I have only compared it to photos of another forum member's glove and everything seems to match up. Who provided this info to you? What exactly was the problem?

          Thanks,
          Dave

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          • RobSteinmetz
            Moderator
            • Jan 1970
            • 431

            #20
            Re: Cal Ripken Fielders Glove Bought for a "Song" on eBay

            Dave,

            I was told that the lining of the glove is made of the wrong material, as was confirmed by both Denny Esken and the Rawlings employee who made Ripken's gloves. You might want to check with Victor at AMI, as I believe the glove was in his possession when Denny Esken shared this information with him last week.

            Rob
            Rob Steinmetz
            www.authenticgamers.com
            authenticgamers@aol.com
            708.250.5220

            Paying top dollar for Chicago Cubs game used equipment!

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            • Carlevv
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 193

              #21
              Re: Cal Ripken Fielders Glove Bought for a "Song" on eBay

              Wow, thats crazy. When you say lining, do you mean the fur on the inside where the top of his hand goes?

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              • RobSteinmetz
                Moderator
                • Jan 1970
                • 431

                #22
                Re: Cal Ripken Fielders Glove Bought for a "Song" on eBay

                No, the actual leather that lines the entire inside of the glove.

                Rob
                Rob Steinmetz
                www.authenticgamers.com
                authenticgamers@aol.com
                708.250.5220

                Paying top dollar for Chicago Cubs game used equipment!

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                • ironmanfan
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 2252

                  #23
                  Re: Cal Ripken Fielders Glove Bought for a "Song" on eBay

                  Why is anyone surprised by any of this?? Sounds like its time to ship this to Lou............

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                  • allstarsplus
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 3707

                    #24
                    Re: Cal Ripken Fielders Glove Bought for a "Song" on eBay

                    Here is a non-gamer on the new Morphy's auction.


                    Regards,
                    Andrew Lang
                    AllstarsPlus@aol.com
                    202-716-8500

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                    • allstarsplus
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 3707

                      #25
                      Re: Cal Ripken Fielders Glove Bought for a "Song" on eBay

                      Originally posted by ripkengamers
                      I only wish I could have spotted it first. Based upon my conversations with Denny Esken, it think this is the real deal! This could be a museum piece and would probably sell in a major auction house for 3x the $3k it sold for!


                      If you spoke to Denny Esken about this glove and he said it was OK,
                      It is my understanding that the glove purchased on eBay by Dave O'Brien was recently rejected by Dennis Esken. Apparently the glove has the wrong lining...information that was confirmed with the Rawlings employee who actually made gloves for Cal Ripken, Jr. I'm not sure if Dave was able to get a refund on the glove from the eBay seller, but hopefully the glove isn't sold to another unsuspecting collector as a Ripken gamer.

                      Rob
                      then which glove is Rob talking about that Esken is saying "NO" about????

                      Regards,
                      Andrew Lang
                      AllstarsPlus@aol.com
                      202-716-8500

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                      • RobSteinmetz
                        Moderator
                        • Jan 1970
                        • 431

                        #26
                        Re: Cal Ripken Fielders Glove Bought for a "Song" on eBay

                        I think Dan is referring to conversations he had with Denny in the past about Ripken gloves in general...the information from which led him to believe the glove Dave purchased on eBay was good. I don't think Dan had a specific conversation with Denny about the glove Dave O'Brien purchased. Before Denny saw what kind of lining the Ripken glove had, he did not comment (even to me) on whether the glove was good or bad.

                        Perhaps Dan can confirm this theory.

                        Rob
                        Rob Steinmetz
                        www.authenticgamers.com
                        authenticgamers@aol.com
                        708.250.5220

                        Paying top dollar for Chicago Cubs game used equipment!

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                        • allstarsplus
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 3707

                          #27
                          Re: Cal Ripken Fielders Glove Bought for a "Song" on eBay

                          Originally posted by RobSteinmetz
                          Dave,

                          I was told that the lining of the glove is made of the wrong material, as was confirmed by both Denny Esken and the Rawlings employee who made Ripken's gloves. You might want to check with Victor at AMI, as I believe the glove was in his possession when Denny Esken shared this information with him last week.

                          Rob
                          Wow. This glove travels fast. Sold the first week of May to Dave O'Brien and the following week in the hands of Victor at AMI

                          Hi Rob,

                          This is news to me, and certainly not good news. I haven't heard anything back one way or the other yet but was waiting to hear. So far I have only compared it to photos of another forum member's glove and everything seems to match up. Who provided this info to you? What exactly was the problem?

                          Thanks,
                          Dave
                          and Victor hasn't called Dave who provides complimentary editing services to AMI with a heads up that there are issues with the glove, but Rob knows because he spoke to.........
                          ironmanfan

                          Why is anyone surprised by any of this?? Sounds like its time to ship this to Lou............Today 06:02 PM
                          Ironmanfan has a great suggestion for Dave O'Brien to get that 2nd opinion.....Andrew
                          Regards,
                          Andrew Lang
                          AllstarsPlus@aol.com
                          202-716-8500

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                          • mr.miracle
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 883

                            #28
                            Re: Cal Ripken Fielders Glove Bought for a "Song" on eBay

                            Perhaps Ironmanfan or another person knowlegeable about this could post a response. How many game used gloves do you think actually exist from Cal's playing days? On average or perhaps specifically if anyone knows, how many gloves would Cal have used in a given season 1, 2? Any ideas at all? Given the fact that you never see these in circulation but once in a blue moon and the ones that you do see seem questionable, I would venture to say that we are easily looking at less than 50 total gloves in a 21 year career. If anyone could shed light on this it would be helpful.

                            Thanks
                            Brett Herman

                            brettherman2131@hotmail.com

                            Always looking for Cal Ripken Jr. Brooks Robinson, Boog Powell and Orioles game used bats and jersey's.

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                            • Carlevv
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 193

                              #29
                              Re: Cal Ripken Fielders Glove Bought for a "Song" on eBay

                              I once saw a glove in Cal's locker that had hand written years on it. I believe it read 95, 96, 97. Well it was for sure in 95 so it actually could have read 93, 94, 95 as well but you catch my drift. Cal actually labeled the glove for the years he used it. Has anyone here seen that glove? Thats gotta be the coolest glove IMO that Cal would have ever used. Also, at one point he did stop using that same glove but not sure when he stopped. It wasnt long after i saw it because i would have saw more years on it. As far as how many gloves Cal used in his 21 years? I would'nt have a clue on a number but whatever that number is its not getting any bigger. His gloves are tough to find, at least legit ones im finding out.

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                              • ripkengamers
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2005
                                • 159

                                #30
                                Re: Cal Ripken Fielders Glove Bought for a "Song" on eBay

                                Originally posted by RobSteinmetz
                                I think Dan is referring to conversations he had with Denny in the past about Ripken gloves in general...the information from which led him to believe the glove Dave purchased on eBay was good. I don't think Dan had a specific conversation with Denny about the glove Dave O'Brien purchased. Before Denny saw what kind of lining the Ripken glove had, he did not comment (even to me) on whether the glove was good or bad.

                                Perhaps Dan can confirm this theory.

                                Rob
                                Rob,
                                You are correct. I did not speak to Denny relative to Dave's glove. I was speaking in regards to a past conversation I had with Denny regarding Cal's gloves. I trust and highly regard Denny's opinions and I'm surprise that he said Dave's glove is not legit although I only saw the photos everyone else saw on eBay. The general overall fading of the leather and heavily oiled palm are indeed traits of Cal's gamers. Cal only oiled the palms of his gloves and most quality GU gloves are faded from the sun. I'm curious to hear exactly what about the inside leather that Denny was objecting to. If anyone finds out more please post in the forum. Hopefully Dave can provide the details.
                                :eek: "Shows solid identifier puckering" :eek: --Lou Lampson

                                Dan (ripkengamers@aol.com)

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