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12-17-2005, 06:17 AM #1
Re: Elway jersey on eBay look familiar?!?
The eBay auction was ended last week and the item has now been relisted (http://cm.ebay.com/cm/ck/1065-29393-...tem=8739034829) albeit with different photos.
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12-17-2005, 02:08 PM #2
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Re: Elway jersey on eBay look familiar?!?
HELLO are this persons jerseys psi real or fake.
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01-29-2006, 10:56 PM #3
Re: Elway jersey on eBay look familiar?!?
Originally Posted by geoff
In a seperate trasaction anther local collector purchased this jersey's "sister" piece from the Histroric Auctions' December offering and I may have the opportunity to examine it in March as well. If so, I would be happy to report on this as well if others would be interested.
Best regards,
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01-30-2006, 04:13 PM #4
Re: Elway jersey on eBay look familiar?!?
Just my two cents but I really dont think it is appropriate lifting pictures from other auctions to sell a jersey. It is a misrepresentation of the item being sold.
Greg
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01-30-2006, 05:10 PM #5
Re: Elway jersey on eBay look familiar?!?
adam (et al),
calling it 'inappropriate' is a gross understatement. it borders on fraudulent. i've seen a few auctions etc which used other photos but they clearly stated "item pictured is to illustrate style only and does not represent actual item". if a person simply doesn't have a digital camera and they want to show roughly what the item looks like, i'm ok with posting a similar image as long as it had that disclaimer prominently displayed so that nobody was mislead.
without that disclaimer, it's fraud because you're showing an image of an item that you're selling with the clear implication that the item pictured is the item you are bidding on.
when it comes to jerseys, subtle details are what often help the buyer ascertain authenticity and price. how is a buyer supposed to ascertain these subtle details when the item they're bidding on isn't even the one in the pictures? imagine if you stumbled upon a jersey and via the photos you managed to photomatch it exactly to a historic game, so you bid a substantial amount. upon receiving the item, you discover the jersey is not the same one in the pictures.
the bigger question i would begin to wonder, aside from any about the jersey, is why would a seller use photos from someone else's auction
(and not issue a disclaimer)?
rudy.
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01-30-2006, 07:25 PM #6
Re: Elway jersey on eBay look familiar?!?
Originally Posted by EndzoneSportsOriginally Posted by EndzoneSports
Attention All-
Subsequent to the post above, another forum user contacted me this morning with some information which, upon further investigation and verification, may very well alter my opinion of the referenced jersey. I will do my best, within the limits of professionalism and respect for privacy of all the parties involved, to keep forum members apprised of the facts as they are brought to light.
Best regards,
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02-02-2006, 03:57 PM #7
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Re: Elway jersey on eBay look familiar?!?
I am the buyer of the Elway jersey from PSI. I've also recently purchased some other items from PSI, including a Rice 49ers gamer from an Ebay auction that closed a couple of days ago and a Montana gamer that PSI sold to me as an underbidder in a similar Ebay auction that ended last month. I submitted the Elway jersey to EndZoneSports because nobody knows Broncos jerseys better than Patrick Scoggins. Patrick thought the jersey looked OK and wrote a letter of opinion for me. However, now it has come to my attention that PSI has recently put at least two other nearly identical Elway road mid 1980s jerseys into the market, including the one that was sold in the Historic Auctions sale last fall. My question to everyone is: do any of you have experience in dealing with PSI (Bernie Gurnay) and can he be trusted with all of these Montana, Rice, and Elway jerseys he's been putting in the market? He claims he got them from Bronco Hinek, the former 49ers equipment manager. However, the sheer volume of product raises major suspicions in my view. For example, could he possibly have 3 genuine Elway 1985-86 road jerseys? (A 4th one was recently sold in the Broadway Rick's auction; I have no idea where that one came from). I tried to contact Bernie today with these concerns and haven't heard back from him yet. -If anyone has any thoughts on this, I'd be grateful. -Steve Silverman