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02-08-2010, 08:51 PM #1
Very sad day for my collection
Gang,
You all know I collect NY Mets 1987 road jerseys... well, a few years ago, I missed out on a HoJo. I figured all along it would come back around someday and I'd have another chance at it.
Tonight I saw this...
http://cgi.ebay.com/2008-Topps-Sterl...item5ad70026cc
Undoubtedly, a 1987 road jersey of HoJo's was hacked up to create these cards. I'm sick to my stomach.
NickLooking for ...
Any Game Used Mets jerseys from 1986 and 1987
Any Keith Hernandez, Ron Darling, Lee Mazzilli and John Olerud Mets items
Email me at TNT_Toys@yahoo.com
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02-08-2010, 08:53 PM #2
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Re: Very sad day for my collection
Make Lemonade Man. Buy em all up and start sewing!!!!!
Just kidding man, that sucks.
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02-08-2010, 08:56 PM #3
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Re: Very sad day for my collection
Been there and done that.
These card companies need to stop destroying stuff for the sake of "EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO OWN SOMETHING THEY CAN AFFORD".
My point is - if you cant afford the entire jersey, what good would it do for your to own a square inch of cloth?
This is not as bad - see J. Dimaggio jersey, B. Ruth's pant and Bat, J. Robinson jersey and bat .... just to name few...
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02-08-2010, 08:59 PM #4
Re: Very sad day for my collection
Why not? Not everyone can afford a whole jersey, so why not make something that is accessible to the younger demographic? Sorry that your HoJo got the scissors, but now more fans can own portions of his jersey. Look at it this way: one jersey is sacrificed for the gains of many younger collectors who can only afford small swatches of cloth.
-FrikLes Zukor
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Collecting Jeff Bagwell Cleats, Jerseys, & Other Items
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02-08-2010, 09:03 PM #5
Re: Very sad day for my collection
Sorry, but at $200.00 per square inch of cloth, the only people out there getting to enjoy the jersey to its fullest is the Topps Baseball Card Company. You could have the whole jersey for $800.00. Now that you can cut it up into 50 pieces, it's worth $10,000.00. Not bad for an $800.00 investment, huh?
How many of the "fans" could spare $200.00 for a card these days anyway that aren't able to spring for a full jersey?Looking for ...
Any Game Used Mets jerseys from 1986 and 1987
Any Keith Hernandez, Ron Darling, Lee Mazzilli and John Olerud Mets items
Email me at TNT_Toys@yahoo.com
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02-09-2010, 10:52 AM #6
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Re: Very sad day for my collection
These are my thoughts as well. It is a very good way to get others interested in this hobby.
It is not woth $200. Someone would have hit the BIN by now if it was. Topps profits on packs and box sales, not singles anyways. I am sure the other parallels (/25 or whatever since I am not familiar with this set) sold for a lot less than he is even asking. That is what gets people interested. I own a Dave Concepcion jersey card with a big swatch like that I got for $5, but there is no way I could afford his actual jersey. Does that mean I shouldn't be able to own a something used in a game by a should be HOFer and key member of the Big Red Machine? Of course not.
And it does lead others to the hobby. I do question some prices like people dropping tons of money on logos or what not, but even with the recent price spike, $700 (have been around $400 max in the past couple years) could get me the logo shield from a Peyton Manning jersey. Compare that to the actual price of a Peyton Manning gamer. Cutting up some jerseys for cards allows a lot more people to get into a hobby like this. This way, some "richer" Peyton fan gets a truly unique item in the logo while a kid can get a swatch of his favorite QB for like $10 or less. It is a win-win for people like that.
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02-09-2010, 11:07 AM #7
Re: Very sad day for my collection
Looking for ...
Any Game Used Mets jerseys from 1986 and 1987
Any Keith Hernandez, Ron Darling, Lee Mazzilli and John Olerud Mets items
Email me at TNT_Toys@yahoo.com
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02-08-2010, 09:07 PM #8
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Re: Very sad day for my collection
So with the same attitude ... why dont we cut up the priceless arts, declaration of independent (the day that they cut that up in pieces for the sake of sharing, that will be the day I will boycott that company completely).
And only the flip side of that - with a piece of cloth, would they be consider as game used collector? while the rest who own the entire jersey? bat? cleats? helmet?
So we can discriminate those spend less than other?
Why dont we have a poll - to see how many members agree to have their favorite item cut up in pieces?
These card companies are all having a CAR DEALERSHIP mentality - THE CARD WORTH A WHOLE LOT MORE IN PARTS, so chop it up and you get more money!
And if there are enough people who are willing to spend as little as possible to get an inch of swatch cloth, they will continue to destroy the historical item!
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02-08-2010, 09:14 PM #9
Re: Very sad day for my collection
With English like this, maybe you need to take a trip to the National Archives.
Yes - it is a good investment for the card company. But you are also bringing someone - rather, many people - closer to the game.
Isn't being as close as possible to the players the whole point of collecting? Collecting is about everyone having access to the game, not just some financially well-off whole jersey collector.
I used to do the game used card thing, but I tired of it quickly. However, owning a piece of a jersey quickly led to my wanting to own the actual jersey. So - it may be creating more appreciation for game used collecting.Les Zukor
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Collecting Jeff Bagwell Cleats, Jerseys, & Other Items
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02-08-2010, 09:25 PM #10
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Re: Very sad day for my collection
You said it there .... Now wonder, how many items were destroyed and fans and collectors alike ....getting tired quickly.
Another thing, have you check the value of the CUT UP cards, say like 10 years back, and now? It really not even worth it.
I still have the very first Ken Griffey Jr. cut up - got so excited and send it to PSA. Get back a 9 ... thinking about selling it but then decide not to ...
Now, these are a dime a dozen.