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08-05-2011, 11:54 AM #1
Who would you take, Manny or Vladdy?
I've always found it interesting that many people rave over Manny's career but not many rave over Vlad's. I'm not saying none do, I'm just saying that you here about Manny more. So I pose the question to yall of who would yall take on your team (Player wise).
Manny Good:
11 seasons batting over .300.
12 seasons of over 130 games played.
12 time All Star.
2 time World Series Champion.
Manny Bad:
Linked to steroids.
Noted by many to be a prima-donna.
Thought to have bad fielding.
Vladdy's Good:
.318 career batting average, .380 OBP
13 seasons over .300
11 seasons of over 130 games played.
MVP award (2004)
Vladdy Bad:
No world series wins.
Low walk rate.
Not a very good base runner.
Career average number of pitches seen each plate appearance is 3.24 lower than the average 3.75.
So who would you take? Manny or Vlad?
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08-05-2011, 11:58 AM #2
Re: Who would you take, Manny or Vladdy?
Vlad any day. It's not that Manny has merely been linked to steroids; he's been caught. I would take Guerrero, because of Manny's PED issue.
Les Zukor
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08-05-2011, 12:00 PM #3
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Re: Who would you take, Manny or Vladdy?
I woiuld take Vlad. I don't think not winning a World Series is fair bewcause we all know mediocre palyers who wear "The Ring." they're still mediocre.
Vlad still has DH value but Manny is a worthless, selfish loser--and obviously not all that smart either. Hasta la proxima.
Dave Silverbrand
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08-05-2011, 12:09 PM #4
Re: Who would you take, Manny or Vladdy?
Well, I don't think you could go wrong either way...
That said, if I was building a team in 1994 and could pick the guy to play 15 years (most of that not being drug tested) - I think I'd take Manny. But I also really like Vlad.
Manny has:
+.030 points on OBP (slightly lowers BA, but +600 walks)
+110 HR
+85 Doubles
+240 Runs Scored
+360 RBI <--- To me this is the most important
On the flip-side Vlad has:
800 fewer K
+140 Steals, that make up some for Manny's doubles.
+better defense on the whole of his career
On the whole, to me I would pick these guys based on impact to a game and ability to drive in runs. I am taking these guys as a #3 hitter and in that case, I have to give the nod to Manny on the virtue of his run production.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Wes Campbell
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08-05-2011, 12:44 PM #5
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08-05-2011, 04:21 PM #6
Re: Who would you take, Manny or Vladdy?
You mentioned ManRam's 12 AS appearances. What about Vlad's 9?
Vlad all day long...
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08-05-2011, 09:20 PM #7
Re: Who would you take, Manny or Vladdy?
Vladdy for sure
Ricardo Montoya
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08-06-2011, 05:54 PM #8
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Re: Who would you take, Manny or Vladdy?
I would have to agree and take Vladdy.
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08-06-2011, 07:33 PM #9
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Re: Who would you take, Manny or Vladdy?
All-Time Post-Season:
Hits - Manny 3rd
RBI's - Manny 2nd
HR's - Manny 1st
Of course I'm biased, but I would have to go with....... Manny.
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08-06-2011, 07:48 PM #10
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Re: Who would you take, Manny or Vladdy?
I prefer Vlad over Manny. Numbers aren't the only thing to consider. Work ethic and the love of the game go a long way to me.