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    Re: Bonds Confiscated Collector's Memorabilia

    I'm with Brett on this one. Bonds won't and shouldn't have any of his records stricken, especially since he was a HOF and 500 HR lock before he juiced. His punishment is that he's a jerk and everybody knows it, and he may not live too long after retirement. Rumor has it equestrian-strength riods aren't good for the bod.
    "The knowledge that this guy has in his head, some of you would never be able to comprehend."

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    The old adage "What comes around goes around" certainly applies to Barry. His bad kharma is returning back in spades.

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    I don't know why Barry Bonds gets all the blame.

    Think, all those baseball players who were not violating the rules of baseball putting crap into their bodies all those years.

    Think, all those football players who were violating the rules of football putting crap into their bodies all those years.

    Think, all those pro wrestlers who were not violating the rules of sports entertainment putting crap into their bodies all those years.

    Think, all those weight-lifters putting crap into their bodies all those years.

    Think, everyone ever, like those allegations of Lance Armstrong using Steroids, putting crap into their bodies all those years.

    In the end, the public will single Barry Bonds out because he has shown the most success.

    Also in the end, they must all answer to a higher power who will determine if they should be punished, but that higher power is not you, me, The US Government or Major League Baseball.

    I personally bet that higher power has more important issues to deal with.

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    Joel, while I agree largely with what you said, I believe that the Federal Government has a direct obligation to its citizens to waste more of their hard earned money investigating every player who ever played professional sports to determine if they in fact used performance enhancing drugs during the course of their professional careers. God knows that the government has nothing better to do with its time and our money so why should any investigation they do come as a shock to anyone.

    However, I don't necessarily believe that the IRS is singling Barry out as they have proven over the years to be equal opportunity investigators of all who break the tax laws. It just appears that not everyone is dumb enought to get caught. But Joel, you are right, why not try to catch the biggest fish in the sea?

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    Re: Bonds Confiscated Collector's Memorabilia

    They already nabbed The All-Time Hit King, they are just trying to get to Barry before he is The All-Time Home Run King.

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    Eric - Thanks for the article. Along with guys like Jeff Kranz and others that dealt with Barry Bonds and Steve Hoskins, it is almost surreal to see all this unfolding in newspaper articles and Steve vs. Barry and Barry vs. Steve.

    I dealt with Stevie and his assistant Dan for years not only with Barry Bonds items, but also with Willie Mays and Jerry Rice.

    Kent Collectibles was the only game in town if you wanted the "real" Barry stuff.

    By reading the article, I doubt the truth will ever come out. It is a shame that many other people were affected by the fallout and the tarnish that has been put on baseball.

    Byergo's analogy to Enron is pretty close to reality if you bought at the height of the Bond's market.

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    There is not a man I hate more in the game of baseball than Barry Bonds. A classless, racist jerk who deserves to rot in prison for his defamation to the very fibers that make up the game of baseball!

    Tim

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    I for one absolutely ignore all that is going on with Bonds.He was at one time my favorite non Boston player.All the talent in the world without all the non sense.He may not have hit 700+ Hr's but would have won all the MVP's and been a first ballot Hofer.Damn shame to see this star come crashing out of the sky.Don't even care anymore.....By the way i would be interested to hear about Brandon Webb stuff from Jeff.Why not?He is a great pitcher.And now would be the time to get some of his stuff.
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    I totally agree with you there byergo. His punishment if and when he is found guilty but already in the court of public opinion will be the shame of the public eye and questions he will have to endure. Unfortunately, there is simply no way to ever definitively determine if and when each player took steroids and to what degree this enhanced their playing ability to ever officially wipe their records from the books.

    The public shame and embarrassment will have to serve as this punishment as well as a very, very questionable debate about whether or not these players will be enshrined in Cooperstown. If the vote was left up to the current HOF's and a player was caught taking steroids, there seems to be no question that the current HOF's would not vote for that player for enshrinement. It will be interesting to see what the HOF voters do as players from this era become eligble over the next couple of years. Ultimately, I don't see how you can keep players like McGwire, Sosa, Bonds and even Palmeiro out of the hall. After all at least in Palmiero's case, steroids would not have done a great deal in helping him amass over 3000 hits which is an instant tick punch into the HOF. In the case of the three other players I mentioned, none have ever tested positive for anything despite everyone's suspicions of them. Fortunately we are still innocent until proven guilty in this country. Just my two cents

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