Is Miguel Cabrera a Hall of Famer, today?

[danesei@yahoo.com]

Not necessarily disagreeing with you but check out these stats for comparison........

Finished top 3 in mvp voting 3 consecutive years
Had the Most RBI's for the decade
First player to have 50 hrs and 50 doubles in a season......
12 years and only 10 full seasons played

Never received more than 7% of votes with no PED claims.....Albert don't call him Joey Belle

Belle was also a DH who happened to get plugged into corner OF positions to get his bat in the lineup. Belle is somewhat the major argument against David Ortiz making the HOF. Then again, it's doubtful that Ortiz will get serious consideration outside of Boston/NY. He's basically Carlos Delgado, without the fielding ability... and detriment of playing in Toronto most of his career.

That somewhat leads to another question: With all the support Ortiz seems to have for a HOF bid among fanbase, do Delgado's HOF chances improve?

[Roady]

Speaking of Ortiz, did he ever give an explanation for why his name was leaked as among one of the 104 who tested positive for PED use. I remember him saying back then he would explain it but never heard him mention it again.
He did get mad recently, as is becoming a usual even for him, and claim he has never taken anything.
He sure convinced me.

[Roady]

...as is becoming a usual event for him.......
I meant

[STLHAMMER32]

Belle was also a DH who happened to get plugged into corner OF positions to get his bat in the lineup. Belle is somewhat the major argument against David Ortiz making the HOF. Then again, it's doubtful that Ortiz will get serious consideration outside of Boston/NY. He's basically Carlos Delgado, without the fielding ability... and detriment of playing in Toronto most of his career.

That somewhat leads to another question: With all the support Ortiz seems to have for a HOF bid among fanbase, do Delgado's HOF chances improve?

Ortiz tested positive for PED's in 2003 if I'm not mistaken so that hurts chances more than his numbers. Albert Belle played in the AL where there was a DH spot to "plug" him in...he was an outfielder and led the AL in assists in 1999.

[emann]

Ortiz tested positive for PED's in 2003 if I'm not mistaken so that hurts chances more than his numbers. Albert Belle played in the AL where there was a DH spot to "plug" him in...he was an outfielder and led the AL in assists in 1999.

MLB has supposedly never informed Ortiz what he took to place him on the list as recently as last year:

Ortiz told WEEI.com that despite numerous attempts to uncover what exactly he had been placed on the court-ordered sealed list for, there had been no cooperation from any of the parties involved.


“No. Nobody. Not MLB. Not the Players Association. Nobody,” said Ortiz when asked if anyone had revealed what he had reportedly tested positive for. “They just threw it out there that I tested positive on this one list and that was it. Nothing. So I have to deal with that, and your mind is all over the place. And I’ve lived with it.”


I do think Ortiz took something, but the handling of this entire situation is just another reason people should be tossing garbage on the field anytime that Selig steps onto it the rest of his tenure. He deserves zero respect.

[emann]

Also, this is a great blog about Albert Belle (using the frequent comparison to Kirby Puckett):

http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2005/12/13/105152/44

I fully believe the theory that Belle didn't get votes was because he was a jerk and the goal was to intentionally disrespect him with a 7% vote tally... For a guy who put up his numbers and had his career ended at only 33 due to a chronic ailment, he deserved a little better.

If you were an opposing AL team's fan in the 90s, he was the one guy you didn't want coming to the plate...

[Jim65]

Miguel Cabrera is a HOFer right now.

If Albert Belle ever gets consideration in the future, maybe a Veterans Committee type thing and they only look at his numbers and not what an asshole he was, he'll get elected.