Clemens jersey on eBay

[sportscentury]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Houston-Astros-R...QQcmdZViewItem

What do folks think of this jersey? (I ask this question without any inference at all that the jersey is not good - I'm just curious).

Reid

[trsent]

Only .62 cents shipping, and there is a shipping discount available if you buy more than one item.

Do you think they pre-cut the jersey into little pieces and put it into a 2 ounce envelope to ship to Upper Deck, which would explain the .62 cent shipping fee?

[astros*bats]

Reid and Joel,

The seller won this jersey in a previous auction for $525...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=170020029014

I am always very weary of any game used jersey that this seller offers. He has posted many Astros game used jerseys in the past that showed very minimal use.

The seller specializes in signed authentic jerseys, as he buys authentic Astros jerseys on eBay, has them signed, and resells them. He also buys blank Astros jerseys, has them customized with authentic numbers, letter, and patches and then resells them. I can not tell from the original auction if there is a 2004 All-Star patch on the sleeve, but there is one on the new auction.

The seller also buys blank issued jerseys and has them customized. I am not accusing the seller of passing them off as game used, but you can see why someone would tend to shy away from a gamer that shows very little to no use that is offered from the same seller.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=250022789086

[sportscentury]

Reid and Joel,

The seller won this jersey in a previous auction for $525...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=170020029014

I am always very weary of any game used jersey that this seller offers. He has posted many Astros game used jerseys in the past that showed very minimal use.

The seller specializes in signed authentic jerseys, as he buys authentic Astros jerseys on eBay, has them signed, and resells them. He also buys blank Astros jerseys, has them customized with authentic numbers, letter, and patches and then resells them. I can not tell from the original auction if there is a 2004 All-Star patch on the sleeve, but there is one on the new auction.

The seller also buys blank issued jerseys and has them customized. I am not accusing the seller of passing them off as game used, but you can see why someone would tend to shy away from a gamer that shows very little to no use that is offered from the same seller.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=250022789086

AJ,

Thanks for the insight.

Best,
Reid

[kingjammy24]

so it started off as a "roger clemens autographed jersey" and then somehow became a "roger clemens signed game issued jersey". how much longer until it becomes a "roger clemens signed game worn jersey"?

as for those who don't see the issue in pro-coded, pro-tagged, unissued, jerseys flooding the market, perhaps this begins to illustrate it.

i can't help but tip my hat to the rangers & meigray for their great system. absolutely phenominal what they've done.

rudy.

[suave1477]

Ok the only thing I can say that concerns me is the size 50????? I do not know or nor am I fmailair with Roger Clemens sizes and maybe someone here can help out on his sizes but just in comparison. Darryl Strawberry wears a 52 (At the present time) and Roger Clemens is way bigger then him so I would only imagine Clemens would be at least a 52 but I could be wrong!!

[cjosefy]

The COA on the auction from which this seller BOUGHT the jersey is dated July 19, 2006 and says that the jersey was donated by Roger to the United Way of San Antonio.

The seller of the original jersey makes a point to show the Texas patch. I doubt the All-Star patch was originally on the jersey, as it is likely the original seller would have shown it as well.

Without the All-Star patch, the jersey would date to 2005, which is logical given that Clemens didn't rejoin the Astros until late June 2006, so any likely donation would have been made with extra 2005 jeresys that he ordered (which looks like the case).

[sportscentury]

so it started off as a "roger clemens autographed jersey" and then somehow became a "roger clemens signed game issued jersey". how much longer until it becomes a "roger clemens signed game worn jersey"?

as for those who don't see the issue in pro-coded, pro-tagged, unissued, jerseys flooding the market, perhaps this begins to illustrate it.

i can't help but tip my hat to the rangers & meigray for their great system. absolutely phenominal what they've done.

rudy.

Rudy,

I agree completely. With respect to the Rangers/MeiGray system, it continues to be heads above the rest; the argument made in favor of the Yankees/Steiner system is not at all compelling ... how the two systems can be compared when one system tracks each individual jersey and the other does not is entirely beyond me. Not to mention the considerable differences in employee knowledge and customer service. Again, I welcome any honest and authentic Steiner representative to provide evidence and a compelling argument to the contrary. Good luck!

Reid

P.S. I can't tell you how many collectors I've talked with who would like to see MeiGray secure all MLB teams. MeiGray gets this request from collectors all the time and I know they continue to actively pursue agreements with other MLB teams.

[trsent]

Here we go again.

I thought from the start this was being sold as a game used jersey, I now see it is being sold as a Game Issued jersey, which because there is no real definition for what Game Issued is, this is a Game Issued jersey.

Right? It has the 0062 was code, so therefor it is a Game Issued jersey in the seller's mind. The definition doesn't exist, just your assumptions.

Right?

[stkmtimo]

Rudy,

I agree completely. With respect to the Rangers/MeiGray system, it continues to be heads above the rest; the argument made in favor of the Yankees/Steiner system is not at all compelling ... how the two systems can be compared when one system tracks each individual jersey and the other does not is entirely beyond me. Not to mention the considerable differences in employee knowledge and customer service. Again, I welcome any honest and authentic Steiner representative to provide evidence and a compelling argument to the contrary. Good luck!

Reid

P.S. I can't tell you how many collectors I've talked with who would like to see MeiGray secure all MLB teams. MeiGray gets this request from collectors all the time and I know they continue to actively pursue agreements with other MLB teams.

That's a very good point, Reid. I still see MeiGray as the standard in the game worn jersey business. Every item I have purchased from them has had outstanding use. The packaging and the actual tracking of the jersey from their inventory into your hands is a huge plus, as well as the fact that it stays in their MeiGrade system for life. You know you're getting the real deal.

MeiGray's employees at all levels are also top notch and among the nicest and most efficient I have ever dealt with. I too would love to see MeiGray sign other teams to deals like they have with the Rangers - that would be fantastic!

Tim