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Thread: This ain't kosher
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02-24-2011, 07:11 PM #11
Re: This ain't kosher
Something else "ain't kosher" (as the title says)...
1. The SportsRobe LOA no longer accompanies the item. Guessing that the ebay buyer attempted to pass this off as a game used jersey and ditched the letter.
2. The SportsRobe jerseys are about TWICE THE WEIGHT of a normal baseball jersey. How would an experienced memorabilia dealer not be able to tell the difference between this jersey and a true gamer?
That all said, I have no idea how many times this item changed hands between the original ebay purchase and now.Looking for ...
Any Game Used Mets jerseys from 1986 and 1987
Any Keith Hernandez, Ron Darling, Lee Mazzilli and John Olerud Mets items
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02-24-2011, 10:55 PM #12
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02-25-2011, 05:13 AM #13
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Re: This ain't kosher
I don't recall the one that jerseys2003 had on eBay but a COA doesn't make the jersey movie worn.
I just watched the part of the movie that included the Mariners and Griffey and Randy both had the blue R sleeve logo. I think even Dave Magadan did as well but there didn't seem to be any real clear shots of his arm with the logo.
The other non mlb Mariners players had the blue/red R logo on their sleeves.
Lou wore a jacket the whole time but one can make their own decision as to what he might have chosen, considering the other 3 wore their own personal gear for the movie.Always looking for Seattle Mariners & anything of Felix Hernandez, Jay Buhner, Richie Sexson and Arthur Rhodes.
-Jeremy Morgan
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02-25-2011, 11:55 AM #14
Re: This ain't kosher
I'm not saying a COA makes it movie worn or anything, just trying to figure out what's up. If that was the real jersey, then the buyer got a good deal on it.
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02-25-2011, 12:12 PM #15
Re: This ain't kosher
Definitely makes for an odd discussion. I was informed that AIS made 3 jerseys for Griffey to be worn in the movie. So... that said, the question "is that the jersey" may always loom, because you don't know if we wore all 3 during the movie, 1 of the 3, or as Jeremy suggests, none of the 3.
Without exaggeration, I saw 2 of these jerseys within a couple of months of each other. I know that they were not the same exact jersey because the gray material on one was a fair bit faded as compared to the other.
Jeremy -- where did you hear the information that he wore his own gear? It does sound like this is correct if the movie doesn't show the blue & red "R" that's on the AIS jersey.Looking for ...
Any Game Used Mets jerseys from 1986 and 1987
Any Keith Hernandez, Ron Darling, Lee Mazzilli and John Olerud Mets items
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02-25-2011, 12:37 PM #16
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Re: This ain't kosher
I have no solid evidence they wore their own team issued jerseys but it seems odd that in every shot, he's wearing a jersey with the solid blue R on it.
In one shot of Randy they show his cleats which were well worn and had his #51 marked in sharpie on the side in the white nike swoosh. Which style match to cleats he wore in 1993. This also makes sense since they would film in 1993 and none of the jerseys carried the 1994 MLB anniv. patch even though the movie was released in 1994.
So again, I have no proof or hard evidence that Griffey never wore any of the 3 movie issued jerseys, however when you watch the movie, none of the Mariners actual players have the blue/red R logo.Always looking for Seattle Mariners & anything of Felix Hernandez, Jay Buhner, Richie Sexson and Arthur Rhodes.
-Jeremy Morgan
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02-25-2011, 11:10 PM #17
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Re: This ain't kosher
Just goes to show, they do some screwy things with the movie/tv worn jerseys and other items.
On the positive side, who would go through so much effort to fake this as a movie worn jersey by placing the R on the arm? There are far fewer AIS Mariners jerseys out there than Russell. Add to the possibility that this jersey is "something", albeit not a game worn jersey.
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02-25-2011, 11:58 PM #18
Re: This ain't kosher
I am not sure you got the point of the "R" on the arm. Whereas the 1993 road gamers worn by the Mariners had a blue R, the AIS-made movie jersey had a 2-color blue and red "R".
I would be surprised if there were any AIS-made Mariners jerseys out there at all, as AIS never manufactured any jerseys for them. The only thing close would be these made-for-screen uniforms... but believe me, there is NO mistaking them for gamers or any of their lighter weight retail counterparts. If you held one of these, you would know why. They are about twice the weight and thickness of an ordinary jersey. You will never come across something of this structure worn on field. Hence, my astonishment that a veteran ebay seller would even think the Piniella is a gamer.Looking for ...
Any Game Used Mets jerseys from 1986 and 1987
Any Keith Hernandez, Ron Darling, Lee Mazzilli and John Olerud Mets items
Email me at TNT_Toys@yahoo.com