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10-12-2013, 07:25 PM #61
Re: Altered Kobe Bryant Pro-Cut Jersey Being Advertised on eBay with D. C. Sports LOA as Game Used Rookie Jers
Actually it is quite opposite. A lot of the members in this post are very well respected in the game used collecting circle as well as their private lives. We all band together when we can especially if we see doctored/forged items being sold as authentic. That is one of the reasons this site is around. You come on here arguing with people and trying to promote your website without even reading the rules of the forum.
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10-12-2013, 09:21 PM #62
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Re: Altered Kobe Bryant Pro-Cut Jersey Being Advertised on eBay with D. C. Sports LOA as Game Used Rookie Jers
I'm not arguing with anyone. It was brought to my attention that a jersey that I had Acquired is not real. I was duped. I bought a jersey that I thought was game worn. When I got it from Mark it looked legit and not altered. He told me he got it from a French collector. I sent it in to get authenticated and it came back legit. Then I get a link sent to me from Mitch saying he is the one who put the name on the back of the jersey. I'm not coming on here to argue with anyone and trust me guys I don't need this forum to promote my website on here. I didn't know it wasn't allowed. I know know. I apologize. My integrity is being questioned, that is the only reason I came on here is to defend my name.
This is the last time you will hear from me.
You all take care.
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10-12-2013, 11:00 PM #63
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Re: Altered Kobe Bryant Pro-Cut Jersey Being Advertised on eBay with D. C. Sports LOA as Game Used Rookie Jers
Days before the Kobe jersey's issues became public you emailed Mitch to mess with him? I find that hard to understand.
So you are saying Mark traded you a $3000 - $4000 jersey for a $20,000 jersey and you thought it was game used and Mark misrepresented it? Mark says otherwise so I am confused. Who is telling the truth?
Is Mark telling the truth that you paid somewhere between $750 - $2000 for the authentication and the autograph? If so, did you question why the fees were so much more than usually charged?
This forum is to inform and educate dealers and collectors so the exact history of this jersey in a forty day period is very interesting for us all to learn about so we can avoid issues such as this in the future.
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10-13-2013, 07:45 AM #64
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Re: Altered Kobe Bryant Pro-Cut Jersey Being Advertised on eBay with D. C. Sports LOA as Game Used Rookie Jers
I'm not defending anyone but on the surface, this sounds right. Haven't we all purchased items from different sources that we feel may be different than advertised? What to do? In this case, Ryan sent the jersey to be authenticated, paid a hefty sum and in the end, it appears the opinion was worthless.
Just an opinion (LOL).
Jim
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10-13-2013, 10:14 AM #65
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Re: Altered Kobe Bryant Pro-Cut Jersey Being Advertised on eBay with D. C. Sports LOA as Game Used Rookie Jers
I think the biggest thing to come out of this is finding out the wording of the LOA's which from what I've seen have the same wording on every item with a DC Sports LOA might not mean what everyone thought it meant. It's like what was said earlier, how does anyone know now, what DC Sports Items were sourced directly from the Lakers or from a 3rd party's word that it was sourced from the Lakers. I think from now on, it needs to be more clear, and if it was from a 3rd party, the "comes from an impeccable source who has access to players" needs to be left out. I'm not trying to bash Dan but it just sucks, because it does put a little doubt in all jerseys with a DC Sports LOA, in light in this find.
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10-13-2013, 11:37 AM #66
Re: Altered Kobe Bryant Pro-Cut Jersey Being Advertised on eBay with D. C. Sports LOA as Game Used Rookie Jers
I agree think of the money people have spent on Kobe Bryant game used jerseys. One would think it would taint the value when this story gets out. As a collector I now feel all of his jerseys should be questioned as we don't know how many more of these are floating around.
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10-13-2013, 12:13 PM #67
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Re: Altered Kobe Bryant Pro-Cut Jersey Being Advertised on eBay with D. C. Sports LOA as Game Used Rookie Jers
I just want to make clear that this is an isolated incident as we just barley started to authenticate Lakers items that were acquired outside our network. We mention in all of our letters on items that come directly from us that the items are obtained from an impeccable source because we know where they come from. We have a standard letter that we put on all of our items and when we issued the letter to Ryan we just used our standard letter. Ryan and Mark are not impeccable sources that we use to acquire anything. We are correcting our mistake and are taking measures so that this will never happen again. That is why we are updating our data base to include a different option style letter and as always only items that come directly from my contacts on the team will receive our standard letter.
Dan dceniceros248@yahoo.com 323.257.4898
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10-13-2013, 12:21 PM #68
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Re: Altered Kobe Bryant Pro-Cut Jersey Being Advertised on eBay with D. C. Sports LOA as Game Used Rookie Jers
That is why we are updating our data base to include a different option style letter and as always only items that come directly from my contacts on the team will receive our standard letter.
I meant to say different opinion style letter.
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10-13-2013, 12:53 PM #69
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Re: Altered Kobe Bryant Pro-Cut Jersey Being Advertised on eBay with D. C. Sports LOA as Game Used Rookie Jers
I asked you four questions - Would you please take the time to answer them? If you avoid these questions it will appear you are hiding something.
Here are the four questions I previously asked:
1. How much did you charge Ryan for the autograph and letter?
2. Did you personally witness Kobe autograph this jersey?
3. I didn't try to match it up, but I have been told the font on the back of the jersey doesn't match Kobe gamers. You are regarded as the expert - Can you confirm that the lettering font is an exact match to Kobe rookie gamers?
4. If you state it came from an impeccable source, is that source Ryan or Mark? I don't understand how you use that term but don't have a source from within The Los Angeles Lakers organization as another dealer/collector is the source that has access to players before, during and after games? This is very confusing. How many other Kobe jerseys have you written letters for using this expression believing someone telling you it came from an impeccable source?
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10-13-2013, 12:57 PM #70
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Re: Altered Kobe Bryant Pro-Cut Jersey Being Advertised on eBay with D. C. Sports LOA as Game Used Rookie Jers