Lou Gehrig attributed Glove. LOL

[Marshall]

The Pujols jersey has been withdrawn due to the sharing of useful/factual information within the game used community. Thank you.

[Juicyfruit66]

What WAS with the comment about asking phil to meet you at the national? It sounded like either a threat or you want to be his friend....

[sox83cubs84]

FWIW: This isn't the first time a baseball glove had less than stellar authentication methods. A bit over 10 years ago, an authenticator needed to verify a Joe Morgan glove. His method: tossing it to me as I stood in an autograph line awaiting Morgan's signature while he sidled up behind Morgan and asked me to show him the mitt while he listened to Morgan's comments. Morgan did believe it to be his.

Dave Miedema

[Marshall]

FWIW: This isn't the first time a baseball glove had less than stellar authentication methods. A bit over 10 years ago, an authenticator needed to verify a Joe Morgan glove. His method: tossing it to me as I stood in an autograph line awaiting Morgan's signature while he sidled up behind Morgan and asked me to show him the mitt while he listened to Morgan's comments. Morgan did believe it to be his.

Dave Miedema

Hello Dave,

Specifically enlighten me as to what specific authentication methods you would personally recommend as I respect your opinion. Or inform me as to what authentication methods would be used elsewhere.

-We can reference the size and weights of the two most recent sales of Gehrig gloves sold at auction.
-We can reference Draper & Maynard manufacturing records and catalogues from the period.
-We can document Gehrig's endorsement contracts with glove makers.
-We can even document his known glove styles worn during specific periods of his career.
-We can take into account the history of the glove from the consignor.
-We can even pull up hundreds of editorial images of Gehrig with the Yankees wearing an almost identical glove.

With only two known examples in the hobby (none being photo-matched) and this being the first rookie era glove I am beyond open to hearing expert opinions from serious vintage collectors and authenticators. The glove dates to almost a century ago so we obviously aren't going to get a player letter, Team LOA or MLB Authentication.

The glove is Authentic in my opinion. All auction houses have opinions. All authenticators have opinions.

If anyone can prove that the glove is not authentic I will pull the lot immediately. If someone has any additional historical support of the glove I will update the auction listing.

[yanks12025]

Hello Dave,

Specifically enlighten me as to what specific authentication methods you would personally recommend as I respect your opinion. Or inform me as to what authentication methods would be used elsewhere.

-We can reference the size and weights of the two most recent sales of Gehrig gloves sold at auction.
-We can reference Draper & Maynard manufacturing records and catalogues from the period.
-We can document Gehrig's endorsement contracts with glove makers.
-We can even document his known glove styles worn during specific periods of his career.
-We can take into account the history of the glove from the consignor.
-We can even pull up hundreds of editorial images of Gehrig with the Yankees wearing an almost identical glove.

With only two known examples in the hobby (none being photo-matched) and this being the first rookie era glove I am beyond open to hearing expert opinions from serious vintage collectors and authenticators. The glove dates to almost a century ago so we obviously aren't going to get a player letter, Team LOA or MLB Authentication.

The glove is Authentic in my opinion. All auction houses have opinions. All authenticators have opinions.

If anyone can prove that the glove is not authentic I will pull the lot immediately. If someone has any additional historical support of the glove I will update the auction listing.

You haven't even proved that it's real!!!! Lol. Where is the "solid provenance" that you mention in your description.

As I stated before, it wouldn't be hard to find a glove similar to this one. So are you gonna call that also attributed to Gehrig.

[Marshall]

Hello Yanks,

Please provide factual information. I'm not interested in debating with you as your conversation here doesn't lead me (or any other collector who is reading this) to believe that you've done any research on this particular item that would equip you to offer any accurate information in regards to this particular item. Where is your research? I would love for you to post it here as I want the hobby to be fully informed and your informed educated opinion is important to me and many others who read this thread.....


As Stated Earlier.......

Specifically enlighten me as to what specific authentication methods you would personally recommend.

-We can reference the size and weights of the two most recent sales of Gehrig gloves sold at auction.
-We can reference Draper & Maynard manufacturing records and catalogues from the period.
-We can document Gehrig's endorsement contracts with glove makers.
-We can even document his known glove styles worn during specific periods of his career.
-We can take into account the history of the glove according to the consignor which attributes the glove to Gehrig. Also, the glove comes from one of the greatest Yankees collections on earth.
-We can even pull up hundreds of editorial images of Gehrig with the Yankees wearing an almost identical glove.

With only two known examples in the hobby (none being photo-matched) and this being the first rookie era glove I am beyond open to hearing expert opinions from serious vintage collectors and authenticators. The glove dates to almost a century ago so we obviously aren't going to get a player letter, Team LOA or MLB Authentication.

The glove is Authentic in my opinion. All auction houses have opinions. All authenticators have opinions.

If anyone can prove that the glove is not authentic I will pull the lot immediately. If someone has any additional historical support of the glove I will update the auction listing.

[Phil316]

Marshall,


Your reputation follows you, remember that. Goodluck.

[Phil316]

What WAS with the comment about asking phil to meet you at the national? It sounded like either a threat or you want to be his friend....

I have no personal issues with Marshall Perkins. I just googled his name and that website came up with a complaint.

Clearly as a game used community we are always on the look out for forged/non authentic items. Just as much as we are looking for a great item. If an item is called out do the right thing and Marshall did that.

Will I bid at infinite auctions, probably not. Clearly others do and to each thier own.

[Marshall]

Specifically enlighten me as to what specific authentication methods you would personally recommend as I respect your opinion. Or inform me as to what authentication methods would be used elsewhere.

-We can reference the size and weights of the two most recent sales of Gehrig gloves sold at auction.
-We can reference Draper & Maynard manufacturing records and catalogues from the period.
-We can document Gehrig's endorsement contracts with glove makers.
-We can even document his known glove styles worn during specific periods of his career.
-We can take into account the history of the glove according to the consignor which attributes the glove to Gehrig. Also, the glove comes from one of the greatest Yankees collections on earth.
-We can even pull up hundreds of editorial images of Gehrig with the Yankees wearing an almost identical glove.

With only two known examples in the hobby (none being photo-matched) and this being the first rookie era glove I am beyond open to hearing expert opinions from serious vintage collectors and authenticators. The glove dates to almost a century ago so we obviously aren't going to get a player letter, Team LOA or MLB Authentication.

The glove is Authentic in my opinion. All auction houses have opinions. All authenticators have opinions.

If anyone can prove that the glove is not authentic I will pull the lot immediately. If someone has any additional historical support of the glove I will update the auction listing.

[seanbaseball]

Specifically enlighten me as to what specific authentication methods you would personally recommend as I respect your opinion. Or inform me as to what authentication methods would be used elsewhere.

-We can reference the size and weights of the two most recent sales of Gehrig gloves sold at auction.
-We can reference Draper & Maynard manufacturing records and catalogues from the period.
-We can document Gehrig's endorsement contracts with glove makers.
-We can even document his known glove styles worn during specific periods of his career.
-We can take into account the history of the glove according to the consignor which attributes the glove to Gehrig. Also, the glove comes from one of the greatest Yankees collections on earth.
-We can even pull up hundreds of editorial images of Gehrig with the Yankees wearing an almost identical glove.

With only two known examples in the hobby (none being photo-matched) and this being the first rookie era glove I am beyond open to hearing expert opinions from serious vintage collectors and authenticators. The glove dates to almost a century ago so we obviously aren't going to get a player letter, Team LOA or MLB Authentication.

The glove is Authentic in my opinion. All auction houses have opinions. All authenticators have opinions.

If anyone can prove that the glove is not authentic I will pull the lot immediately. If someone has any additional historical support of the glove I will update the auction listing.

It seems there isn't some special authentication method that u need to use or a certain expert you need to sign off on the glove. these old gloves without rock solid provenance are a guess at best. I think everyone is saying is that there is no real evidence to call this attributed to Gehrig any more than some other gloves out there. And your disclaimer on the auction makes it clear that once they pay u wash your hands of the glove. Like buying a used car.....sold as is...buyer beware. So stop asking others to authenticate your work......and if they cant then they are wrong. Seems like your job is to make the best case for the glove and people here are saying they aren't buying the case u made. It happens.