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Old 11-21-2009, 12:21 PM
Arnold Arnold is offline
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Default 1900 +/- Babe Ruth Pin Identifacation?

Probably the wrong place for this but I'd like to see if someone knows anything about this pin found.
Greenduck label on the back with "Pat Feb 13 1917" on the back. It came from a house that was built in 1830 and the back kitchen area was built in early 1900's and because the space where this pin was found has not been disturbed (judging by the plethora of porceline dolls etc. also found in the space).
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Old 11-21-2009, 06:46 PM
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Probably the wrong place for this but I'd like to see if someone knows anything about this pin found.
Greenduck label on the back with "Pat Feb 13 1917" on the back. It came from a house that was built in 1830 and the back kitchen area was built in early 1900's and because the space where this pin was found has not been disturbed (judging by the plethora of porceline dolls etc. also found in the space).
Arnold -

Ruth is not my area of expertise - and neither are pins actually - but I can tell you that that the Pat date is simply for the Pin Back design, NOT the date that particular pin was made.

How can I be so sure? For the following reasons:

1) The Babe Ruth Baseball Club started sometime in the 30's if memory serves.

2) The picture of Ruth on the pin is definitely from later in his career, around 1917 Ruth would still have looked like this:



3) I have a Reach Baseball Pin for their Official American League Baseballs that has a Pat date of 1889 on the back... the AL didn't start until 1901 - 12 years later - so the Pat date is simply for the Pin Back itself.

It's still a great Ruth piece.

- Chris
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Old 11-22-2009, 07:45 AM
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Default Re: 1900 +/- Babe Ruth Pin Identifacation?

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Arnold -

Ruth is not my area of expertise - and neither are pins actually - but I can tell you that that the Pat date is simply for the Pin Back design, NOT the date that particular pin was made.

How can I be so sure? For the following reasons:

1) The Babe Ruth Baseball Club started sometime in the 30's if memory serves.

2) The picture of Ruth on the pin is definitely from later in his career, around 1917 Ruth would still have looked like this:



3) I have a Reach Baseball Pin for their Official American League Baseballs that has a Pat date of 1889 on the back... the AL didn't start until 1901 - 12 years later - so the Pat date is simply for the Pin Back itself.

It's still a great Ruth piece.

- Chris
Chris,
Makes sense to me.
In fact doesn't even look like a BB pin to me, No uniform, Looks like a farmers overalls, no hat etc.
Arnold
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Old 11-22-2009, 08:00 AM
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Chris,
Makes sense to me.
In fact doesn't even look like a BB pin to me, No uniform, Looks like a farmers overalls, no hat etc.
Arnold
Arnold -

I actually thought the picture looked more like the top of a men's 'one piece' bathing suit (tank top style) like these:



as there are pictures of Ruth wearing a suit like this that I have seen before.

- Chris
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Old 11-22-2009, 08:03 AM
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Just wanted to 'add' your pics as I know people have problems seeing attachments:

Front:



Back:



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Old 11-22-2009, 08:59 AM
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Default Re: 1900 +/- Babe Ruth Pin Identifacation?

Thanks Chris, How did you do that?
Arnold

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Just wanted to 'add' your pics as I know people have problems seeing attachments:

Front:



Back:



- Chris
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Old 11-22-2009, 09:23 AM
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Default Re: 1900 +/- Babe Ruth Pin Identifacation?

Arnold:

You may want to consider posting this on:

www.net54baseball.com

They can most likely provide some additional assistance with this for you.

Good Luck!

Bill
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Old 11-22-2009, 10:54 AM
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Thanks Chris, How did you do that?
Arnold
Arnold -

I opened your attachment(s), copied the link in the address bar and pasted them into notepad, came back here and when I replied, I clicked the box in the toolbar that looks like a yellow square w/ mountains and the moon above them and pasted the links (one at a time)... that's how you add pics to posts...

- Chris
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Old 11-22-2009, 02:17 PM
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Chris,
Thanks... That'll come in handy when posting..
Arnold



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Arnold -

I opened your attachment(s), copied the link in the address bar and pasted them into notepad, came back here and when I replied, I clicked the box in the toolbar that looks like a yellow square w/ mountains and the moon above them and pasted the links (one at a time)... that's how you add pics to posts...

- Chris
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Old 11-22-2009, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: 1900 +/- Babe Ruth Pin Identifacation?

Thanks Bill,
I signed up and have to wait for activation... Probably 1 day or so...Then I can post it.

But if your signed on it, feel free to post it.
Arnold


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Arnold:

You may want to consider posting this on:

www.net54baseball.com

They can most likely provide some additional assistance with this for you.

Good Luck!

Bill
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