Ami Larry Wilson Jersey

[CollectGU]

Re: Ami Larry Wilson Jersey

Howard is correct...even if you look at the football card below, you will see the "8" in the background and it is nowhere close to being the same font, and this is the image where the black is outlining the number. Nothing here seems to match at all....sorry no dice!!

The font on the "8" in the background of the football card seems to match the font on the sleeve of the offered jersey. The material of the jersey also looks similiar, it's a good start.....

Regards,
Dave

[genius]

Re: Ami Larry Wilson Jersey

If it's not legit, what is it? I guess it could be:

1) a vintage authentic replica (were they even made back then?)
2) an old red Champion jersey that someone took the time to screen #8 on with "Wilson" on the back (a homemade jersey in other words)
3) a flat-out fake with intention to deceive
4) a modern throwback with an old Champion tag sewn on.
5) a coincidence, someone found an old red jersey of another team that had a #8 named Wilson.

These all seem far fetched to me. I've got no stake in this but I'm just wondering what else this is, if not a Cardinal gamer. Thanks!

[XPFO]

Re: Ami Larry Wilson Jersey

Howard is correct...even if you look at the football card below, you will see the "8" in the background and it is nowhere close to being the same font, and this is the image where the black is outlining the number. Nothing here seems to match at all....sorry no dice!!

[hblakewolf]

Re: Ami Larry Wilson Jersey

Here are a couple of pictures from 1970 showing what appears to be a champion jersery.

What leads you to believe this is a Champion jersey? If it is, then why is the number 8 a completely different style font than that on the jersey offerd by AMI?

Howard Wolf
hblakewolf@patmedia.net

[RKGIBSON]

Re: Ami Larry Wilson Jersey

Nice work guys, I have never seen those.

Victors says " Lou likes it a lot". Looks like Lou knows what he is talking about here.

Roger

[genius]

Re: Ami Larry Wilson Jersey

I've almost certain I've seen footage of the Cardinals wearing this jersey, not sure where though. Looks like the Wilson in question is in the background of that jersey card photo. My question would be, if it's not a gamer, what is it? Why would Champion make a Cardinals jersey with "Wilson" screened on, unless they made authentic replicas at that time?

[jdr3]

Re: Ami Larry Wilson Jersey

Here are a couple of pictures from 1970 showing what appears to be a champion jersery.

[John in KY]

Re: Ami Larry Wilson Jersey

I don't know about the manufacturer, but for just the 1970 season the Cardinals evidently did try black trim on the numbers. They evidently didn't like the look and went back to plain white (at least until their recent redesign).

The guy who postes by PANTONE on the Creamer logos board is in Phoenix; he is a Cardinal fanatic, and he is hooked in with all of the leagues for their official style guides including the PANTONE printing and textile colors. He is also hooked in with the Cardinals, since they are his hometown team. Here is a link to his post about the 1970 Cardinal jerseys:

http://boards.sportslogos.net/index.php?showtopic=55954

Here is a jersey on a card from 1970:



This PANTONE usually is sitting on all the uniform and logo changes, and he has all the style guides for the NFL starting in the mid-80s.

[RKGIBSON]

Re: Ami Larry Wilson Jersey

Howard,

I did not say this changed any facts. I posted pictures of real tags from Cardinal jerseys. That is a fact.

As per forum rules, I did contact AMI. That is why I stated that I talked to him. He told me where it came from. That adds facts to this post.

I have owned many Cardinal jerseys. This jersey is not consistant with those, fact.

Roger

[hblakewolf]

Re: Ami Larry Wilson Jersey

Here are a couple typical St. Louis Cardinal tags, one from 68 and one from 70.

I did speak to Victor today. He said this jersey came out of St. Louis from a long time game used dealer.

Roger

Roger-
Regardless of Vic speaking with you, and letting you know the shirt was obtained form a "long time game used dealer", it does not change the facts as noted in my initial post. The shirt does not come close to any known examples from 1970/71.

When you speak with Vic again, can you ask him what was referenced in order to determine this is a genuine, game worn 1970/71 Wilson jersey?

Unless Vic or his 100% Authentic Team can produce the research/photos/evidence they used to support their findings that this is a game worn Larry Wilson jersey from 1970/71, I would suggest removiing this jersey from their current auction offerings.

Howard Wolf
hblakewolf@patmedia.net

[RKGIBSON]

Re: Ami Larry Wilson Jersey

Here are a couple typical St. Louis Cardinal tags, one from 68 and one from 70.

I did speak to Victor today. He said this jersey came out of St. Louis from a long time game used dealer.

Roger

[hblakewolf]

Re: Ami Larry Wilson Jersey

Eric-
Email sent to the owner, Vic, however, no repsonse received.

Howard Wolf
hblakewolf@patmedia.net

[Eric]

Re: Ami Larry Wilson Jersey

Has someone attempted to contact American Memorabilia about these issues?

[lund6771]

Re: Ami Larry Wilson Jersey

a very knowledgable Cardinal collector told me that the Cards wore Wilson in this era...never Champion

[otismalibu]

Re: Ami Larry Wilson Jersey

Spartacus !!!