eBay: Late 60s Saints durene?

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This information is always worthy to members who have not read before...

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New members should read.

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Educational thread bump...

[G1X]

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Nice photos from Topps! The ebay jersey is definitely a different jersey than the one in the Topps photos. Look closely at the sleeves. The ebay jersey has the traditional long-sleeves of the era while the jersey worn in the Topps photos has the cuffed-sleeves style that were also used by teams - especially warm-weather teams - during that era.

Mark Hayne
Gridiron Exchange
gixc@verizon.net

Will trade NFL durene jerseys for WFL jerseys.

[both-teams-played-hard]

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2. Bruce Cortez wore #47 for New Orleans in 1967. He was active in only one regular season game according to the Pro Football Encyclopedia. He is also listed as #47 on the 1968 pre-camp roster in the Street & Smith Pro Football Annual, but did not make the team. See the following two links showing Cortez on the 1967 roster: http://www.nosaintshistory.com/rosters/1967ros.htm

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nor/1967_roster.htm

These are on eBay now, from thetoppsvault:

[both-teams-played-hard]

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Is Number 1 available on DVD?

Yes. It is available.

Great clip with actual NFL footage and insert shots of Heston wearing white and black:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VbRxfIoKkM

Featuring the music of Al Hirt, the technical support of Ed Sabol and the acting skills of my all-time favorite sports artist, Ernie Barnes. A fellow North Carolinian and former NFL player who passed away last Spring. Rest in Peace.

[saintsfan]

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The comment about the Number 1 movie is a great one.

I also heard the Saints had a farm club that got the scraps, and thus might explain the nearly extinct late 60's gamers.

Is Number 1 available on DVD?

Tom

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In addition to preseason use, this jersey may also have been worn in the movie Number One starring Charlton Heston and featuring the New Orleans Saints players that was released in 1969.

Could not find a photo from the film with black jerseys...seller is from the L.A. area and gets much of his inventory from the second hand market, so movie-worn is a definite maybe...looks like the same numeral font...

[tcfor3]

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In addition to preseason use, this jersey may also have been worn in the movie Number One starring Charlton Heston and featuring the New Orleans Saints players that was released in 1969.

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Bidding ended, $1,700+

For prosperity's sake:

[G1X]

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. . . and to second Warren's discovery, I just got off the telephone with a long-time Saints collector who has a '67/'68 Saints jersey in his collection. He confirmed that it was made by Southland, and he also stated that several jerseys from that era in the team Hall-of-Fame are also Southland jerseys.

Mark Hayne
Gridiron Exchange
gixc@verizon.net

Always looking for WFL and Atlanta Falcons jerseys, and Darren Lewis and Willie McGee items.

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I received this answer from one of my contacts, a long time executive at Southland:

Yes, Warren. As I recall the story, when NO got their franchise in 1967, an asst eqpt mgr for the Cowboys got the job for the Saints. Southland made the game jerseys for the first couple of years. The one on Ebay is definitely ours. As to whether it is "game wore" is another question. It could have been but I can't say positively.

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Per HelmetHut the black helmet was used in the 1969 preseason; the early years of the Saints helmet striping should go something like this:

1967 pre-season (or at least training camp): gold helmet, single white center stripe

1967 season: gold helmet, black/white/black stripes

1968 pre-season through Game 2 regular season: gold helmet, black/white/black stripes

1968 games 3-14: gold helmet, white/black/white stripes (pants stripes also changed but you will see players with both pants styles in the same photo)

1969 pre-season: black helmet

1969 season: gold helmet, black/white/black stripes

Here is a Saints helmet, supposedly from their first season, that sold on AMI a couple of years ago:

[G1X]

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For what it's worth, it takes a lot of wearing and washing to get the type of number puckering and fraying seen on the ebay jersey. Old jerseys, especially durene jerseys, were made much differently. They were "built to last", and players did not wear them "skin tight" like modern players. Therefore, jerseys tended to last longer and did not rip and tear as easily as modern jerseys.

Mark Hayne
Gridiron Exchange
gixc@verizon.net

Always looking for WFL and Atlanta Falcons jerseys, and Darren Lewis and Willie McGee items.

[designedexclusively]

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Does anyone know if there are any known examples of Saints gamers from the late 1960's in the hobby, or have closed in previous auctions, I cannot think of one off hand earlier then the early 80's...

The helpful stats on the player wearing number 47 would be consistent with the ammount of use shown on the shirt, which just looks like some minor number fraying and wear.

If a saints no namer from this era goes for cake, what would a star from this era fetch in the current new orleans crazed market?

DX.