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[NEFAN]

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Yeah, I beleive it is possible that NFL Auctions messed up somehow. You should be able to get your money back if it proves to not be a McNair gamer. Good luck.

Kevin

[Mulligans]

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Thanks for the Compliment.....I think that the Mcnaire is a Great Helmet and I don't want to see it go for less than its value. I am in the process of photo matching it and I may look to sell it again in the future.

Jeff

[NEFAN]

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Just visited your site, Nice Pats collection!

Hey Guys.....It's my helmet that is up for Auction.....It is a GREAT helmet with game use and is signed nicely by McNaire.

I have never tried to photo match it but I'm thinking game film is the way to go if anyones up for it......It was purchased directly from NFL Auctions as a Steve McNaire GU Helmet.

All I can say is that this helmet is a real Beauty!

[Sportsislife]

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Hey Guys.....It's my helmet that is up for Auction.....It is a GREAT helmet with game use and is signed nicely by McNaire.

I have never tried to photo match it but I'm thinking game film is the way to go if anyones up for it......It was purchased directly from NFL Auctions as a Steve McNaire GU Helmet.

All I can say is that this helmet is a real Beauty!

what happened to the helmet?

[onlyalbert]

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Gotta say I'm loving the Musial bat lot 653, but it is getting out of my reach! I have asked if the bat was signed twice as his name appears below the "slugger". Does anyone know anything about that? Strange there is no mention of it in the desc.

[Mulligans]

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Hey Guys.....It's my helmet that is up for Auction.....It is a GREAT helmet with game use and is signed nicely by McNaire.

I have never tried to photo match it but I'm thinking game film is the way to go if anyones up for it......It was purchased directly from NFL Auctions as a Steve McNaire GU Helmet.

All I can say is that this helmet is a real Beauty!

[legaleagle92481]

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Someone should call PSA for an elaboration as to what they mean by "Steve McNair" in the context of how Jon quoted the PSA database entry that corresponds to the hologram. It is possible they could mean that it is signed by Steve. I know alot of times stars sign equipment used by random players and it is possible that a scrub Titan used this helmet and Steve signed it for whatever reason.

[jhunt28]

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Just quickly went through Getty for ya and same thing, the holes don't appear in any of the Titans or Ravens photos. Could it possibly be a game-used helmet, just not specifically of McNair? Just throwing out ideas as I am clueless too.

Sure, it COULD be a game used helmet of a random player...BUT then this would make the auction title a bit misleading.

[solarlottry]

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I called GF this AM about the fact that the Montana shirt has a size 42 tag but in the description it states that it is a size 46. Montanan wore a size 46 with Wilson only to the best of my knowledge and this comes from 20 years of collecting 49er shirts. Well what do you know-the shirt has been pulled! When I spoke to them Tj was very nice and extremely helpful and if there was an issue with the shirt they did the right thing.

Pays to pay attention to detail with this stuff or potentially thousands of $ can be lost!

Always buying 49er shirts and paying up to 500$ finders fee for the right 1994 shirts!!! I can't believe no one has even taken me up on that yet!

Paul
garciajones@yahoo.com

[cliffjmp33]

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Not to change subjets from Niners to Titans, but I had interest in the McNair helmet below. Initially looks good, with PSA/DNA sticker from NFL Auctions, which reads "Item: Helmet Subject:Game Used Authentication Date: 11/15/04 Result/Grade: Authentic Notes: Steve McNair"

Looks great on the surface, until you look at pictures. The McNair helmet in the auction has holes for a High Hookup chinstrap, either snap or screw-in. I cannot find any photos of McNair using a helmet with holes near the decal for a high hookup chinstrap in 2003-2004 season? Would love to hear any plausible explanations, because I would love to pick up an authentic McNair lid. I think I'll keep away for now...



This photo is the item for auctions in Grey Flannel, note high hookup holes

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Game photo from 2004, no holes

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Another game photo from '04, no holes

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A game photo from 2003...still no holes

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Just quickly went through Getty for ya and same thing, the holes don't appear in any of the Titans or Ravens photos. Could it possibly be a game-used helmet, just not specifically of McNair? Just throwing out ideas as I am clueless too.

[jhunt28]

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Not to change subjets from Niners to Titans, but I had interest in the McNair helmet below. Initially looks good, with PSA/DNA sticker from NFL Auctions, which reads "Item: Helmet Subject:Game Used Authentication Date: 11/15/04 Result/Grade: Authentic Notes: Steve McNair"

Looks great on the surface, until you look at pictures. The McNair helmet in the auction has holes for a High Hookup chinstrap, either snap or screw-in. I cannot find any photos of McNair using a helmet with holes near the decal for a high hookup chinstrap in 2003-2004 season? Would love to hear any plausible explanations, because I would love to pick up an authentic McNair lid. I think I'll keep away for now...



This photo is the item for auctions in Grey Flannel, note high hookup holes




Game photo from 2004, no holes




Another game photo from '04, no holes




A game photo from 2003...still no holes

[solarlottry]

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So Eddie D was handing out Montana and Rice shirts!? Seriously i could see that happening once or twice but for almost EVERY Montana, Rice and other star player? No way. If you just look at some of the old threads on here collectors stated that when they got 49er shirts from Bronco (and i would consider knowing him to be knowing someone in "high" places) he would always type a letter on the spot. I know 49er collectors all over the country that knew him and knew Dick Dobbins (as did I) and they both would write up or have a letter ready for 99% of what they sold. I know this from buying shirts from Dick personally and from buying shirts from multiple collectors who knew Bronco quite well, well enough to get Christmas and birthday cards from him!

Again I have absolutely nothing against Grey Flannel I just think that if every auction has superstar shirts for sale, from era I am talking about, at least some should have team letters especially since that is how they were sold back then.

Paul

[legaleagle92481]

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i agree with paul on this issue. its not just 49ers though its superstars in general. for instance they have an emmitt smith that imo is not gu. first there is no prova/wetrack tag and those were in emmitt gamers in 02. second light use? for an emmitt smith jersey? running back jerseys take a pounding. even a few carries in a game and the jersey should show some serious use with grass stains and hit marks. i think the bidding public concurs as the current price is so low.

[Mulligans]

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I hear what your saying, but I know some guys that collect at a whole different level than me and many of my Friends. I'm just a blue collar collector trying to cover my but the best that I can. When I BUY a jersey I'm always trying to get paperwork.

When you are best friends with Robert or Jonathan Kraft and they hand you a Patriots Jersey from a very high profile player, I can assure you that you don't ask Mr. Kraft for a COA. That's just not how things are done at that level. When you personally achieve a certain status in life and you are very close to very important people, all this stuff becomes less important.......it's just a fact.

I'm not going to speak to the fact of whether auction houses auction off questionable items......we know that happens. I like to give them the benefit of the doubt though and hope that they don't do it on purpose?

[Lokee]

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Me personally I have seen so many bad items come from Gray Flannel (among other auction houses) I would not take the chance on a Montana/Rice or any other jersey unless I could photomatch it.